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Offline Turrethead

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Colbeck lookup
« on: Wednesday 21 February 07 22:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I am looking to find details of a John Colbeck born in St James Whitehaven, Cumberland 17/05/1788, specifically marriage records and even if he was still in England after 1830, as I suspect he may have emigrated with his family in about 1830

Any info appreciated

Doug Colbeck
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Re: Colbeck lookup
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 29 August 09 04:01 BST (UK) »


Hi Doug
Firstly ,I'm doing this Family search for my girl friend ,Marilyn Hughes in Melb.
I have >? & info for you.
Dau of John Colbeck & Eliz Morris ,Rosina marr Wm Ballingall sinclair they had dau Mansell maria ( for some unknown reason she is in Melb) & marr's Horatio Snell  furniture dealer lot of money here, in ?? no record although she says, on info when hus Horatio d in 1897 that they marr 1875 in melb
1st ch Florence F, V, b, 1877in collingwood vic.
hope this helps as I have not seen you mention this marr, any where else.
? I have looked for Jn Colbeck in cumberland no record fits, ? how do you know he & wife
elizabeth morris, were b or bap in cumberland?
I will look to see if my library AIGS in Blkburn melb, has any parish records for whitehaven.
? what was jn's occ ? what took them both to london to marr in 1817
we know they had ch in cumbria in 1819 -1832,
? why go to london to marr then go back to Cumbria, I don't understand , can you tell me the answers.
Thanks for you time
Norma Gardner melb

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Re: Colbeck lookup
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 29 August 09 06:52 BST (UK) »
Is it possible Elizabeth Morris was from London area?
People usually married in the Brides Parish.

Pallots Marriage Index;
Mr ColbeRT to Eliz MORRISS
1817, St Anne, Soho

If you search from homepage the surname COLBECK you will find others looking for this family in particular Victoria.

Trish
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Re: Colbeck lookup
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 29 August 09 08:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Normro and trish1120,
the info I have on John Colbeck is from a local written account, as follows;

On 12 May, 1833, a tailor, John Colbeck, sailed from the port of London on the 2 gun barque "Ann", commanded by Captain Richard Free. John was then 45 years old, and came from the county of Cumberland. He sought for himself and his family a new life in the colony of Van Diemen's Land, founded thirty years earlier, and of which such glowing reports had reached England of its temperate climate, its fertile soil and its opportunities for advancement. Conditions in England at this time were bad indeed.
It is almost certainly true that the labourer, and perhaps most tradesmen, were less well fed than were the convicts who were at the time being transported under the new "reform" scheme. At any rate, the thought of the rough voyage of five months did little to deter John Colbeck and his fellow emigrants, but no doubt the voyage was interesting enough to relieve the monotony and the tensions of the long trip, as the little vessel gallantly beat her way down the Atlantic, and beyond the Cape of Good Hope into the roaring forties, then "running down her easting" till she sighted the wild cliffs of the colony and entered the Derwent River on the 1st October, 1833. With John were his wife Elizabeth, and five children: William 14, Sarah Francis 12, Rosina 9, John Morris 4, and an "infant".
John carried on his trade in Hobart, but it is not clear whether it was in a private capacity or as an employee of the government of Lieutenant Governor Arthur. The census of 1842 refers to John Colbeck, householder, of High Street, Bothwell, living in a "complete" brick house, with seven other persons, all free, resident there on the night of 31st December 1841. Of these there were Elizabeth, the mother, described as "over 21 and under 45", 2 boys between two and seven years, 1 boy between seven and fourteen years, 1 girl under two years, one girl between seven and fourteen years, and one girl between fourteen and twenty-one years.


Other than that I have a marriage date of 20th April 1817 in Saint Ann, Soho, Westminster, London - that seems to be the best fit.

Any more info would be great, and I am also interested in the Victoria, Australia Colbecks to add to my database.

Regards
Doug Colbeck
Colbeck, Colebeck, Caldbeck, Coulbeck


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Re: Colbeck lookup
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 August 09 08:13 BST (UK) »
Sorry - forgot to add my source data

John Colbeck & Elizabeth Morris
20/04/1817
Saint Anne Soho Westminster London
Source Call No: 0918597 LDS 1813-1821 IGI Batch No: M062361


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Doug Colbeck
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Re: Colbeck lookup
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 August 09 08:22 BST (UK) »
Good luck with it all and when Victoria is on-line I am sure she wil join in :)

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Re: Colbeck lookup
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 29 August 09 08:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks Trish,

My data in webpage form
http://www.cis.utas.edu.au/users/dcolbeck/colbeckfamily/index.htm

Hope their is something useful in this lot  :)

Regards
Doug Colbeck
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Re: Colbeck lookup
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 29 August 09 08:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Doug, we have been in touch before. Our Colbeck family did originate from Whitehaven but as you know in the past I could not find link to your Colbeck family. I wonder if they may have been cousins. It would be interesting to find link.
My husbands ancestor was James Colbeck bn 1753 Whitehaven Died 28/12/1810 Trinity Gardens Whitehaven.
He was a sea Captain. you can view information about one of his charges via google " Nimble "
Victoria
Just had a look at my records.
Marriage 14/07/1781 Saint James Whitehaven
James Coldbeck & Peggy Blamire ( Margaret )

Children.

William Coldbeck 08/09/1782 Holy Trinity Whitehaven
Died Oct 18 1802 Bonny Africa
James Coldbeck 03/04/1785 Holy Trinity Whitehaven
Died 17/07/1806 Port Maurie Jamaica
JOHN COLDBECK 11/05/1788 ST JAMES WHITEHAVEN
Hughie Coldbeck 1792 Died 29/10/1798 Trinitry Gardens Whitehaven
Isaac Coldbeck 1794 Whitehaven
COLBECK,WHITEHAVEN CUMBERLAND
COLEBECK,HOPE,MILLER,LIVERPOOL
SCHAMBERG,MEMMEL PRUSSIA
ROCHE,ROACH,MAHER,FOY IRELAND
SANDFORD.TYNAN, LIVERPOOL.
HUBBARD,TAYLOR KENT.
HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND
SANDFORD NEWCASTLE/UPON/TYNE.



LANCASTER,GOWLAND,NORTHUMBERLAND
FOY, ROSCOMMON IRELAND,LIVERPOOL.
SMITH,HAMPSHIRE, & LIVERPOOL
SEALES SURREY CRADDOCK,HAMPSHIRE

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Re: Colbeck lookup
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 30 August 09 03:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Victoria,

nice to chat with you again - especially now I have more details of my ancestors.

This is exiting information as it could be a distinct possibility that my John is the John highlighted in your posting.  :o

Do you have any more info John that I can compare with the sparse info I have to see if I can prove the connection?

Will put the details in your posting into my database for future referrence in case those names pop up again.

Regards
Doug

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