Where is he?

[pamty12]

 
Can anyone help. I have 1861 census showing William Smith, wife Harriet Hooper and son Charles age 8. b. 1853 ish.  I cannot find him in 1871  and have difficulty finding his birth, I have a marriage for Will and Harriet as Q3 1858, so that would mean they married after Charles'birth. I also have no info. on a marriage or death for him.    The family lived in Calines worcester, but 1861 says Charles was born in St. Marys Shropshire??
Can anyone solve this puzzle?
thanks
Pam

[Necromancer]

1871 - RG10/3067; Folio: 59; Page: 34 - Claines
Ombersley Road

 
William Smith 48  Head Market Gardener Herefordshire, Much Martle ?
Harriett Smith 33  Wife Hallow
Henry Smith 13  son Errand Boy Claines
William Smith 10  son Scholar do
John C Smith 8  son do
Mary E Smith 5  dau do
Ellen F Smith 3 dau do
Alfred A Smith 4 months  son do


ah, I've realised that its Charles you seek ! 

[Puffcat]

On the 1851 Census WIlliam is living in Much Marcle in herefordshire aged 29.

If Charles was born around 1853, is Harriet his mother ?  Is 1871 age is correct she would have only been 15 - was Charles the son from a previous marriage ?

[pamty12]

Hi EBN,
It is possible. There are several William Smiths which I am trying to sort out.  One of them was married before  to a Lucy Baker I am not sure if this is the William of my line or not. Do you think that Charles maybe Lucy Bakers son? Is there anyway to find out.?
Regards
Pam

[Puffcat]

His marriage certificate will carry his father's name hopefully.

You know the William you want married Harriet, so that certificate is available from Worcester Register Office.

Then write to the appropriate Register Office for any possible marriage like William and Lucy and ask that the details like father and possibly occupation are similar.  They will inform you if there is not a match on the details before you actually purchase.
If the details match sufficiently then I reccommend you buy that Certificate which will give the wife's details. His marriage Certificate to Harriet should have Widower on it as his status/

[pamty12]

Hi EBN,

Thank you for the information. I will try and get the marriage cert. and hope I have chosen the right William.
Pam

[DS]

Hello Pam

Here is an interesting entry (in relation to your earlier reference to Lucy Baker)

1871

Bridgnorth RG10/2743 Folio 11 Page 16

John Baker Head M 76 Retired Joiner Bridgnorth
Sarah do Wife M Staffordshire
Charles Smith Grandson U 18 Painter Bridgnorth

Address 37 West Castle Street, ST MARY, Bridgnorth

On the 1851 census these people have a daughter Lucy aged 29.

DS

[Puffcat]

Free BMD shows both a Lucy Baker and a William Smith marrying June Quarter 1852 in Bridgnorth

[DS]

 
Pam

Death registration

1875 Worcester OND quarter 6c 195

Lucy Smith

DS