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St. Paul's Sheffield - which one?
« on: Tuesday 20 February 07 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help me discover which St. Paul's this marriage certificate relates to please? I have tried a 'Google' search but that has turned up the cathedral St. Peter & St. Paul, a picture on GenUKI of a St. Paul's taken c1900 & another church in a different area of Sheffield! So I am confused - doesn't take much!!!

St. Paul's Church in the Parish of St Paul, Sheffield in the county of York

When: 13th June 1876
Names: Harry Hope Campbell & Sarah Newman
Ages: he was 23, she was 18
Condition: Bachelor & Spinster
Profession: he was a musician
Addresses: he lived at 23 Howard Street, she lived in Napier Street
Fathers: Andrew Campbell (Actor) & James Newman (Silversmith)
Witnesses: William Pearce his 'x' mark, & Priscilla Newman

I am just trying to build a picture of the whole family - which as Harry had 19 brothers & sisters is quite a task - plus his name was not really Campbell but Voullaire! His father's professional name as an actor was Mr. Campbell while he performed at Sadler's Wells and the Grecian Theatre in London. Harry was the youngest of the 20 children having been born on 27th November 1851 at 7 Wynyatt Street, Clerkenwell.

Wonder if Harry was a musician in Sheffield and that is how he met Sarah! Could there be any playbills or programmes with his name on in Sheffield? Or even Sarah's name she too could have been a performer, the wedding certificate gives no clues as to what she did before they married.

All information welcomed as each small piece adds to the jigsaw.

Thanks,
Patsy

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Re: St. Paul's Sheffield - which one?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 20 February 07 13:22 GMT (UK) »
It is likely to be St Paul, Pinstone Street, but the name of the minister might help.

This is an image of this church http://www.picturesheffield.com/jpgh/s04328.jpg, with the Town Hall behind (but that wasn't there in 1876). There are a number of other images on that site as well.

Sheffield Parish Church, SS Peter & Paul, is never referred to as 'St Paul's' on its own.

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Re: St. Paul's Sheffield - which one?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 20 February 07 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Dear Paul,

Thank you for such a quick reply.

The minister's name was J.B. Ellis - does that help?

I am now off to look at the website you mentioned, and also browse through my book "The Northern Music Hall" by G.J. Mellor. I see from the index that Sheffield had several theatres Adelphi Circus, Alexandra Theatre & Opera House, Alhambra, Empire, Grand, Hippodrome, Palace, & Surrey Music Hall so plenty of work for a musician.

Thanks again for your help.
Patsy
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Re: St. Paul's Sheffield - which one?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 20 February 07 14:31 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Hugh, did not mean to call you Paul - senior moment!

Happy searching,
Patsy
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Re: St. Paul's Sheffield - which one?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 20 February 07 15:56 GMT (UK) »
Dear Hugh,

Just spent a very interesting hour on the website Pictures of Sheffield, but was amazed at how many of the theatres in Sheffield have been burnt to the ground!

I did come across one picture which might have me jumping to conclusions and that is the Theatre Royal, Arundel Street, was next door to John Round & Son Ltd., Silversmiths. I think the theatre was built around about 1773 so it could have been a working theatre at the time of Harry & Sarah's marriage in 1876. Can anyone confirm that for me please? The Theatre Royal was destroyed by fire in December 1935. Are or were the streets Howard Street & Napier Street in this same area? Theatrical 'Digs' are not normally very far from the theatre.

Also Sarah's father was a silversmith - therefore he could have worked for John Round & Son Ltd. Would there be any lists of employees in archives somewhere?

Finally, how far away would St. Paul's Pinstone Street be from the Theatre Royal?

Thank you again for the great link.
Best Wishes,
Patsy
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Re: St. Paul's Sheffield - which one?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 February 07 00:50 GMT (UK) »
The Theatre Royal was certainly in business in the 1870's. apparently Henry Irving played Hamlet there in 1877. But I wouldn't jump to conclusions about a silversmith - there were many many silversmiths in Sheffield.

This theatre wasn't far from St Paul's.

I haven't been able to link that minister to St paul's yet. I will look at some directories when I get the chance. Does it say if he is a curate? He ceratinly wasn't the Vicar of St Paul's.

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Re: St. Paul's Sheffield - which one?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 February 07 19:58 GMT (UK) »
Dear Hugh,

Thanks for your continued help.

Unfortunately the marriage certificate just states the wedding was "according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after banns by me J.B. Ellis" so no further clues as to his status!

I was also interested in hearing about Henry Irving performing at the Theatre Royal in 1877, (only a year after Harry & Sarah's marriage) as that gives some idea of the type of performances the theatre presented at that time.

Best Wishes,
Patsy
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Elstob, Fidler, Hunter, Strong (Northumberland)
Acus, Bayes, Beech, Bell, Bird, Blaskett, Blatchly, Byatt, Daly, Farmer, Fricker, Hartelbury, Voullaire-Campbell (London)
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Re: St. Paul's Sheffield - which one?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 March 07 18:28 GMT (UK) »
I can confirm that John Bourne ELLIS was a curate of St Paul's, Pinstone Street - listed as such in White's 1876 Directory of Sheffield. Actually, it says St Paul's, Norfolk Street - the road that passed the churchyard on the other side  :)

Hugh
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Re: St. Paul's Sheffield - which one?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 March 07 00:40 GMT (UK) »
Dear Hugh,

Thank you for confirming which church, and finding the full name of the curate.

Actually it has been a very good day for finding family jigsaw pieces because I received another wedding certificate today for Harry's older sister Emma Voullaire, and it has turned up the fact she was married in the church of St. Peter ad Vincula, Tower of London, and I thought you only had your head chopped off there!

Good Luck with all your future searches,
Patsy
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Barnes, Berry, Curry, Freeman, Jeffels, Nipper, Robson, Shiel, Stokell, Thompson, Urquhart,  (County Durham)
Elstob, Fidler, Hunter, Strong (Northumberland)
Acus, Bayes, Beech, Bell, Bird, Blaskett, Blatchly, Byatt, Daly, Farmer, Fricker, Hartelbury, Voullaire-Campbell (London)
Berry, Graham, Urquhart (Scotland)
Thompson, McCullough (County Down, Ireland)