blueeyes, I just got your messages, you must be some cousin of my hubby's by the sound of it, was your mum Jean? Sorry for not replying to this topic I had not had any messages recently regarding it. There was an address on the birth certificate for Edden Smith, it was something like Wimpstone Whitchurch, which we passed on a recent visit to the Midlands, I am trying to work out the connection, but I have an idea who you may be, do you have a brother who lived with your mum?