Crilly/Patterson, Belfast, 1928

[tucson mike]

My grandmother Catherine Patterson Fogarty arrived in New York from Liverpool in 1928. I've located the passenger list for her trip. Name & address of nearest relative in originating country is:
"Sister - Mrs. Grace Crilly, 77 Cavendish St., Belfast"
So Mrs. Crilly's maiden name was Patterson if I'm not mistaken.

I haven't so far done any research for Belfast or Antrim, so I'm not sure where to look next in order to find, say, Grace's marriage to Mr. Crilly, or anything else about her. Thanks for any suggestions.

Mike

[Christopher]

Hello Mike,

I was in the Central Library today using their Street Directories. I'll have a look for Fogartys and Pattersons living in Belfast in the 1920s when I'm there tomorrow.... Cavendish Street is in the Falls Road area  It's located at 125, Falls Road. St Peter's Roman Catholic Church is on the corner of Falls Road and Cavendish Street. That may be a handy clue regarding where to start your search. Lets hope the Fogartys and Pattersons appear in that same area.

Chris

[tucson mike]

Chris,

Well, St. Peter's Cathedral, I see they call it in the article at Wikipedia.org. Looks a bit grand for my great-aunt to have been married in, but who's to say. Thanks for your help.

Mike

[Teelinboy]

Hi Mike,

I know its 3 years later but I have just spotted your post when researching my grandmother's family tree - she was Grace Teresa Crilly (maiden name Patterson) of 77 Cavendish Street, Belfast who had two sisters Catherine (Kitty) Patterson who according to my info went to New York and Elizabeth (Lizzy) Patterson who emigrated to Adelaide, Australia.
Their mother Catherine (maiden name O'Kane) died shortly after Grace was born - their father was John Patterson a Sailor (he was known in Belfast as Captain Patterson from Liverpool).

Looks like our grandmothers were sisters!
Contact me if you wish to share information - I would be glad to tell you what I know.

Philip

[tucson mike]

Philp,

Yes, that's a bit of luck. What does that make us, first cousins twice removed? I've sent you email off the list, so we can communicate further.

Best wishes,

Mike Carroll

[Teelinboy]

Hi Mike,

I have emailed you today with some further information about our common relatives.  I now know from your mail that John Patterson was probably a crew member on the SS Britannic in 1892 which sailed between Liverpool and New York.

Perhaps some other members on this forum could suggest the best way of tracing crew member records of this ship and others of its era.

Any other information anyone can offer about the Crilly's of 53 Cavendish Street (1901 census) and 61 Earlscourt street (1911 census) who were listed on the 1901 census as originally from Co. Derry would also be appreciated.

Philip

[kingskerswell]

Hi,
   There seems to be some confusion about the place of birth. The 1901 census states Co. Derry for the parents and older children as can be plainly seen in Form A. The 1911 census says Co. Kerry for the same people as can also be seen in Form A.
   The 1911 census says the couple have been married foe 28 Years, and assuming Co. Derry is correct, I can find a marriage of James Crilly to Annie Elizabeth Doherty in Killowen Roman Catholic Church, Coleraine, Co. Derry on 31 Dec 1882.

Regards

[Teelinboy]

Hi Kingskerwell,

Thanks for the prompt reply - I did spot several discrepancies between the  1901 and 1911 census (wife's name Jennie in 1901 instead of Annie - it appears to be a transcription error)- I am quite sure though that the Crilly's were from Co. Derry rather than Kerry.  This means the information you have supplied could prove to be important.

I appreciate your help.

Philip

[kingskerswell]

Hi,
   Another small bit of information, James Crilly, father James, married Grace Teresa Patterson, father John, in Belfast (Urban 1) Roman Catholic Church on 25 Oct 1911.

Regards