Looking for Anthony Gillespie

[Valda]

The 1851 census disk from the Latter Day Saints covers the counties of Devon, Norfolk and Warwickshire only. It has one Anthony 'Gillipsy' born circa 1808 in Ireland on census night 1851 in Birmingham.
Another index that has full coverage for England in 1851 also gives you
Anthony Gillaspie born circa 1829 in Carlisle in Cumberland in 1851 and
Antony 'Guslaspy' born circa 1843 in Derby and in Derby in 1851.

There are 8 Anthonys in Birmingham in 1851 born Birmingham or Ireland, born within two years of a circa 1843 birthdate - none outside Birmingham with a Birmingham birth. None of them have the surname Gillespsie but in future years for various reasons (but the most likeliest would always be illegitimacy) anyone of them may have chosen to use the surname Gillespsie which might account for the difficulty in finding Anthony, or simply that though he gave Birmingham as his birthplace he arrived there after the 1851 census (or is very difficult to spot on the census, or was not enumerated) and was a merchant seaman by 1861. If he wasn't actually born in Birmingham the most likely place for his birth may very well be Ireland.

There is no Anthony Gillespsie on The National Archives electronic database for Royal Navy service 1873 - 1923.

Since the censuses do not help in the search, the main piece of evidence which may move the search on, remains Anthony's marriage certificate. Without it anything else remains mere conjecture.

Regards

Valda

[carolwalden]

Hi Valda, thanks for that. Will be ordering his marriage certificate at the end of the month. Will let you all know what it has to says.

Seems i am destined to have difficult ancestors  . I have Scottish ancestors who also came back to Scotland from Ireland after spending a few hundred years over there. My husbands family seem to pop out of nowhere too. Its all good fun though and with kind people like yourselves willing to help out its not such a chore 

Thanks again and will update you as soon as the certificate hits the floor 

Carol

[carolwalden]

Just a quick update.
I ordered Anthony`s marriage certificate and his daughter Emmeline`s   birth certificate.

On the marriage certificate his occupation is a Sailor and his father was Anthony.
On Emmeline`s birth certificate his occupation is Seaman Merchant Service.
So i have managed to get a little further ahead but not much.
I did find a death record on the FreeBMD site for an Anthony age 72 in 1877 Birmingham and one in Derby in 1882 age 65 both are likely candidates.
Looks like i have a bit more searching to do.

Carol

[Valda]

What occupation was given for his father Anthony on the marriage certificate?

Anthony Gillepsie aged 63 in Derby on the 1881 census was a travelling draper (street seller) born Ireland. Cloth hawker in 1861 with son Anthony aged 17 the school teacher born Derby.

On th 1851 census in Birmingham there is an Antony Gillipsy aged 45 an agricultural labourer born Ireland with sons Thomas and James aged 20 and 26 also born Ireland. I can't see anything after that.

Regards

Valda