1841 census ELLEN DOWNS of Stoke

[florence kate]

1841 census

I am interested to find
ELLEN DOWNS, age 25 of Stoke (or possibly Langport or Hanley).

Thank you,

Florence Kate

[daviesa]

Hi

Is Downs her maiden name or marital name.

Alison.

[patrish]

There is this one although it says all not born in the County (41 gives no actual places of birth)

HO107/996/10/F13/P19

Brinley? Hill, Kingswinford, Staffs

Edward 25 Iron ?
Ellen 20
James 4
Ann 2
Edward 1

[florence kate]

Sorry, I should have said, DOWNS is her maiden name.

F

[patrish]

I think we need a bit more to go on, was she born in Staffordshire?  or do you expect her to be living in Staffordshire? as I cant see anyone on the 41 that matches.  This is all I can find on the IGI


 Ellen Downs ch 29.12.1813 Stoke on Trent Stafford

Burial 2.1. 1814

Father Samuel Mother Hannah

[florence kate]

Yes Patrish there is something of a mystery connected with all this.

I know that Ellen Downs came from Staffordshire, and I know that by 1851 she was married to William Newton  (of Northamptonshire) and living in Birmingham.  But I cannot find either of them in 1841.

I just wondered if Ellen was still in Staffs in 1841 (hence my query); it might help me to work things out a bit.  There is a possibility that she was a second wife and brought children from a first marriage to Birmingham.   If she married twice, I suppose Downs might be her original surname or the surname of her first husband.....

Oh dear.  Perhaps I should investigate the marriage first and then work backwards to the census.  Anyway, thanks for your interest.  I think I'll leave it there for the moment, and see if I can go at it from a different direction.

Thank you,

Florence

[florence kate]

As  recently reported in the Northants Look Up requests, I think I have found the NEWTON family I was looking for in the 1841 census  .....  under the name BURTON!

Note the similarities between this and the family I am looking for:
Burton    William        30      1811   Boatman
Burton      Ellen           25    1816                         in county (Staffordshire)
Burton    Elizabeth      6      1835
Burton     Lucy       1 mnth   1841                         in county (Staffordshire)

HO107   992   3/5   2     living at Wharf Street, Shelton, Stoke upon Trent.

Janan thinks this might be it! 

Florence  Kate
                     

[armyoldsweat]

Pls excuse me.   78 and struggling a bit with IT!  Have detail of a William NEWTON baptised 13 November 1811 subsequently a brickmaker, Little Brington, Northamptonshire, 1835-1841

[florence kate]

Thanks for the suggestion.  The place is certainly close to where I hope to find William Newton, but I'm not at all sure about a brickmaker.  The William NEWTON I am looking for was first a  BOATMAN, and later a railway worker. However, I will keep your suggestion in mind.  Thank you.

Florence Kate