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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 26 February 26 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Looking for Margaret Bell in 1851
She seems to be with her married sister Mary Ann (Potts) in Tynemouth
Age 18, born Percy Main
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG6Q-9FX

Marriage, 28 July 1845, Tynemouth
Joseph Potts
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Mary Ann Bell, father Thomas Bell
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGTH-76NM

I seem to have missed a sister? Mary Ann Bell who marries a Joseph Potts in 1845 but does not appear in the 1841 census with parents Thomas and Ann. Wonder if there are any more  :o
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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 26 February 26 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Here is the marriage mentioned by Jonwarrn as a 'possible' in post 49.  Unfortunately, both witnesses appear to have been serial signers at the Church rather than family members.

Christ Church, Tynemouth
Entry 451
23 Dec 1848
William Williams & Elizabeth Bell
Both full age
Bachelor & Spinster
Collier
Both This Parish
Fathers:
(?) Williams - Collier (too faded for me to make out although he is recorded as Richard on FamilySearch attachment posted by jonwarrn.
Thomas Bell - Collier
William signed his name. 
Elizabeth signed her mark
Witnesses:
Thomas Oxley
James Pye
By Banns
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #65 on: Friday 27 February 26 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Here is the info for your records re the  other marriage mentioned by Jonwarrn ..

St Hilda, South Shields
Entry 126
22 Nov 1840
John Nevens & Eleanor Bell
Both of full age
Banksman
Both abode 'So Shields'
Fathers:
Thomas Nevens - Waggonman
Thomas Bell - Banksman
Witnesses:
John Lee
Jas (s is small and raised) Ramsey
(Ramsey appears to be a serial signer)
All signed names
By Banns
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #66 on: Friday 27 February 26 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again, RTL.
Extremely kind of you.
John


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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #67 on: Saturday 28 February 26 15:39 GMT (UK) »
I have tried to search for the birth/baptism of Thomas Bell c1796. The 1841 census gives Thomas aged 45 so born c1796. I know that in 1841 the year of birth was rounded off to the nearest 0 or 5. On inspecting the census page it is clear to see that firstly 48 was written down and the a 5 was written over the 8. This would give an adjusted year of birth as 1793  ;D The only other information given is that he was 'born in County',,,, yeah thanks for that  ::)
On searching for Robert Bell's born with these details it quickly became clear that there are a lot of Robert Bell's born at this time !!!

So, I thought, searching for Roberts death/burial may reveal an age at death to help. Robert must have died some time after the 1841 census and the 1851 census where wife Ann is a widow. Again many Robert Bell's meeting their demise. So I thought I would cheat and look to see if any exhisting Bell trees may offer any clues. It turns out that this particular Bell line is not being researched excepting for a few scraggly trees bearing little fruit. A couple do insist that he dies in sept 1841at Seaton Delaval. FreeBMD gives only one result for this: deaths sept 1841, Tynemouth, vol 25, page 257. I guess the only way to prove this is by ordering the certificate, which I shall do and share the results when this little gem arrives in my letter box  ;D


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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #68 on: Saturday 28 February 26 15:47 GMT (UK) »
On searching the 1841 census, the following Bell's where discovered:

Stable Row, Seaton Delaval (2 pages back)
Robert Bell 50
Robert Bell 20
Joseph Bell 30
Robert Bell 6
Ann Bell 2
Ann Bell 50
Mary Bell 8
Jane Bell 31
This is a strange compilation of Bell's of various ages all living together

Blacksmith Row, Seaton Delaval
Jacob Bell 50
Isabella Bell 50
Mary Bell 20
Jane Bell 11
Isabella Bell 6m
this family is a regular parents and offspring family group.
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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #69 on: Saturday 28 February 26 16:05 GMT (UK) »
The 1851 Census search for Bell families produced more results:

106 Double Row, Seaton Delaval
Robert Bell head 70 horse keeper b Hexham
Ann Bell wife 60 b Hexham
Robert Bell son 38 coal miner b Hexham
Sarah Bell sons wife 36 b Earsdon
George Bell grandson 7 b Earsdon
Robert Bell grandson 4 b Earsdon
Thomas Lamb visitoir 28
Ann Robson serv 26 horse serv

21 Brick Row, Seaton, Delaval
Jacob Bell 63 head Engineman
Isabella Bell 61 wife
Jane Hindmar 20 daughter (sounds Dutch)
Isabella Bell 10 granddaughter

142 Double Row, Seaton Delaval
Martin Bell 27 head b Tynemouth
Mary Bell 25 wife b Earsdon
Elizabeth Bell 4m daughter b Earsdon

152 Double Row, Seaton Delaval
Living with Family Richardson
John Bell 25
Jane Bell 20

71 Garden House, Seaton Delaval
John Bell 41 head Gardener b Earsdon
Margret Bell 40 wife b Woodhorn?
Mary Ann 15 b Earsdon
John 11 b Earsdon
George 5 b Earsdon
Robert 2 b Earsdon
John Dodds 50 widow servent

Not so sure if I can use this information to help in anyway, maybe I am just scratching in the dirt hoping to see the light. But, I will do the best I can to find any links to these families and report back. I am sure that Roberts parents are amongst these Bell families in the general area. Any hints and clues are very welcome  ::)
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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #70 on: Saturday 28 February 26 16:27 GMT (UK) »
You are welcome, Jonwarrn. I am happy to be able to try to help out as you do. :)

Petey, perhaps hang fire with ordering the cert, just yet.
If this Robert you are after died in Seaton Delaval in 1841, he may have a St Alban's, Earsdon burial. 
I have shifts coming up but I could check this out for you soon if you would like me to.  Probably, at some point in next two weeks but as soon as I am able.
The burial entries around this time were sometimes a bit more informative than later years, although no guarantee.

By the way, there is St Albans volume of baptisms at the
Local Studies which lists a Robert Bell baptised 1835 but
I think this one had a Father called John.  Mother's name also recorded but I would have to check again to be quite sure on both parents' names.  I don't think it was Thomas.
I think there were a couple of other Roberts too in this slim volume which covers the years 1833-1836.
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #71 on: Saturday 28 February 26 16:35 GMT (UK) »
A couple do insist that he dies in sept 1841at Seaton Delaval. FreeBMD gives only one result for this: deaths sept 1841, Tynemouth, vol 25, page 257.
I guess the only way to prove this is by ordering the certificate, which I shall do and share the results when this little gem arrives in my letter box  ;D

Petey22 just checking you do know you can order an instant digital image from GRO indexes cost £3.00

BELL, THOMAS       49 
GRO Reference: 1841  S Quarter in TYNEMOUTH UNION  Volume 25  Page 257

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