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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #36 on: Sunday 08 February 26 12:06 GMT (UK) »
Marriage certificate purchased, now its a question of waiting untill the certificate arrives here in Holland  ;D

Marriage certificate arrived yesterday  ;D
4th may 1889
Robert Bell, aged 27, Bachelor, Miner, Wylam, father: Robert Bell
Mary Cole, aged 19, Spinster, Crawcrook, father: Thomas Cole 
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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #37 on: Monday 09 February 26 13:11 GMT (UK) »
Marriage certificate purchased, now its a question of waiting untill the certificate arrives here in Holland  ;D

Marriage certificate arrived yesterday  ;D
4th may 1889
Robert Bell, aged 27, Bachelor, Miner, Wylam, father: Robert Bell
Mary Cole,  aged 19, Spinster, Crawcrook, father: Thomas Cole

Thank you for the update

Does it give an occupation for father Robert?
Who were the witnesses?
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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 10 February 26 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Sorry for the omission  ::)
Father, Robert's profession was also a miner as was Mary's father, Thomas.
Witnesses: John Robson and Elizabeth Fraser.
I am hoping that the witnesses may be brother/sister in law at least related somewhere along the line.

Thanks for all the information regarding Robert Bell's accident and eventual death, Wow!
what a hard and dangerous life it was down the mines  :-[
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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 10 February 26 16:52 GMT (UK) »
I still like the Robert Bell + Isabella Smith family.
Their son Robert was born in Seaton Delaval, or very close by.
Later they moved to Wylam, and Robert senior was a coal miner in the 1881 census.


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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 14 February 26 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Marriage of Parents:
St Alban, Earsdon
Entry 243
Robert Bell & Isabella Smith
Both age 22
Bachelor & Spinster
Miner
Fathers:
Thomas Bell – Miner
Robert Smith – Miner
Witnesses:
Ann Smith – signed with her mark
William Blackett (who seems to have been a regular signer on marriage entries)
Robert signed and Isabella signed with her mark.
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On setting a search for Robert Bell's born c1835 born Northumberland (In the census he claims consistently to have been born Percy Main) with father: Thomas Bell. I have 3 results:

i. Robert Alexander Bell, chr. 09-06-1835, Monkswearmouth, Durham.
parents: Thomas and Margaret Bell.
ii. Robert Bell, chr. 24-05-1835, St. Peters, Wallsend, Northumberland.
parents: Thomas and Margaret Bell.
iii. Robert Bell, chr. 28-01-1835, Hartburn, Northumberland.
parents: Thomas and Isabella.

I think that I can disregard the first option as the second name Alexander does not appear anywhere, thus, leaving 2 choices, Thomas and Margaret or Thomas and Isabella. The clue may be in the location of birth as our Robert consistently claims to have been born at 'Percy Main' (1861,71 and 81).
All my life I have never been north of Norwich and now live in the lovely town of Zwolle in the Netherlands and my geographical knowledge of Durham/ Northumberland is very limited. I need the advice of local experts to hopefully point me in the right direction.
The whiskey is kicking in now, so I will look at the census for these remaining two options tomorrow.
kind regards
Petey
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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 14 February 26 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Marriage of Parents:
St Alban, Earsdon
Entry 243
Robert Bell & Isabella Smith
Both age 22
Bachelor & Spinster
Miner
Fathers:
Thomas Bell – Miner
Robert Smith – Miner
Witnesses:
Ann Smith – signed with her mark
William Blackett (who seems to have been a regular signer on marriage entries)
Robert signed and Isabella signed with her mark.
By Banns

On setting a search for all Robert Bell's born c1835 born Northumberland (In the census he claims consistently to have been born Percy Main) with father: Thomas Bell. I have 3 results:

i. Robert Alexander Bell, chr. 09-06-1835, Monkswearmouth, Durham.
parents: Thomas and Margaret Bell.
ii. Robert Bell, chr. 24-05-1835, St. Peters, Wallsend, Northumberland.
parents: Thomas and Margaret Bell.
iii. Robert Bell, chr. 28-01-1835, Hartburn, Northumberland.
parents: Thomas and Isabella.

I think that I can disregard the first option as the second name Alexander does not appear anywhere, thus, leaving 2 choices, Thomas and Margaret or Thomas and Isabella. The clue may be in the location of birth as our Robert consistently claims to have been born at 'Percy Main' (1861,71 and 81).
All my life I have never been north of Norwich and now live in the lovely town of Zwolle in the Netherlands and my geographical knowledge of Durham/ Northumberland is very limited. I need the advice of local experts to hopefully point me in the right direction.
The whiskey is kicking in now, so I will look at the census for these remaining two options tomorrow.
kind regards
Petey
Sudbury Suffolk, Bocking/Braintree Essex, Hendon/Bethnal green Middx.

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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 14 February 26 18:06 GMT (UK) »
At DRO the 24 May 1835 baptism at Wallsend says "Robert Bell of Howdon Pans" (and father Thomas is a shipwright)

Modern Howdon Pans is very close to Percy Main, maybe 1 mile.

On this early OS map view Howden Pans (same place different spelling) is at the bottom of the image on the north bank of the Tyne, and Percy Main is NNE near the top.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15.4&lat=54.99445&lon=-1.48040&layers=257&b=ESRIWorld&o=100
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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 14 February 26 18:17 GMT (UK) »
GENUKI has this map showing Percy Main

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Tynemouth/StJohn
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Re: Bell family County Durham
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 14 February 26 19:31 GMT (UK) »
At DRO the 24 May 1835 baptism at Wallsend says "Robert Bell of Howdon Pans" (and father Thomas is a shipwright)

Modern Howdon Pans is very close to Percy Main, maybe 1 mile.

On this early OS map view Howden Pans (same place different spelling) is at the bottom of the image on the north bank of the Tyne, and Percy Main is NNE near the top.

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15.4&lat=54.99445&lon=-1.48040&layers=257&b=ESRIWorld&o=100

Having identified other baptisms for this family I have traced them through 1841, 1851, 1861 and 1871. This Robert Bell (1835) always gives his place of birth as Tynemouth or Howdon, not Percy Main, so if your Robert says Percy Main then it is not the same man.
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