Bell family County Durham

[jonwarrn]

in Ryton in 1881
Robt Bell, Boarder, 20, Coal Miner, born Northumberland Seaton Delaval
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/7572/records/4690682

Who is this guy, I hear you asking.
Well I think he might be the RB registered March qtr 1861
BELL, ROBERT       
Mother's Maiden Surname: SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1861  M Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 169

Marriage of parents was at Earsdon, 18 January 1858
Robert Bell + Isabella Smith
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP3T-YGQ8

1861 in Seaton Delaval, and young Robert is apparently enumerated as 14! Meant to be weeks possibly?
Place of birth Holywell (Terrace?) Holywell is right by Seaton Delaval
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7JC-3Q5

1871 in Wylam
Son Robert is 10
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRM9-4VH

1881 family still in Wylam, minus son Robert
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/7572/records/17300889

Wylam is interesting because Robert Bell in Ryton in 1881 is boarding with the Wright family and Mrs Jane Wright nee Potts was apparently from Wylam, her mother and brother are with them.
Though in 1871 it says they were from nearby Ovingham!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5BF-T5F

Of course it may not be the right Robert for this query, and the marriage cert is eagerly awaited.

[softly softly]

Who is this guy, I hear you asking.--No I wasn't

Morning jonwarrn, I had 2 to choose from , mmn Smith or Beal/Beall. Wentdown the Beal route and it was not him. The Smith's I tried but went amiss because of the age of 14.

I have no doubt about that marriage cert saying his father is Robert. well done-good thinking.

SS

[JenB]

1891c
Robert Bell age 28 born Durham She?ing Moor occ coal miner
Mary 20, Robert 1 & Thomas C 5 mths

Just dropping in to say that on the original the birthplace looks like Shiney/Shirey Moor to me, and I think the most likely place is Shiremooor which is a couple of miles south of Seaton Delaval.

[jonwarrn]

I think the most likely place is Shiremooor which is a couple of miles south of Seaton Delaval.

Thanks for that Jen, I wondered what it was supposed to be.

SS, it would be nice if the marriage certificate says Robert Bell for father, but I am not quite as confident as you!

I can't pin down Robert in 1921. Not at home with Frances and Robert junior. He was alive, so must be somewhere!
And when did he die?
Robert Bell is on the electoral registers at 13 Gibside Street, Winlaton until autumn 1925. Along with Frances Bell and Armstrong Bell. At number 17 is a Thomas Bell.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C39F-K3WB-9

Frances Bell is listed at 13 Gibside Street in spring 1926, along with Thomas Tucker. No Robert.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS13-J9ZJ-C

[jonwarrn]

I can't pin down Robert in 1921. Not at home with Frances and Robert junior. He was alive, so must be somewhere!

It seems that he wasn't alive at all
Robert Bell died at the Newcastle Royal Infirmary, 24 April 1921.
Of 13 Gibside Street, Rowlands Gill.
Age given as 57.

We could do with the Newcastle Chronicle, 28 April 1921, for full details!
Local Doctor To Be Called
Rowlands Gill Man's Death and An Accident in 1918

[River Tyne Lass]

Marriage of Parents:
St Alban, Earsdon
Entry 243
Robert Bell & Isabella Smith
Both age 22
Bachelor & Spinster
Miner
Fathers:
Thomas Bell – Miner
Robert Smith – Miner
Witnesses:
Ann Smith – signed with her mark
William Blackett (who seems to have been a regular signer on marriage entries)
Robert signed and Isabella signed with her mark.
By Banns

[JenB]

We could do with the Newcastle Chronicle, 28 April 1921, for full details!
Local Doctor To Be Called
Rowlands Gill Man's Death and An Accident in 1918

Here you are  https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/2ad7709b-de25-42cc-8357-a189d90ef2e9

[jonwarrn]

Thank you for the article, Jen.
Poor Robert seems to have had a tough few years after having injured himself.

I won't mention that there are two death registrations for Robert Bell age 57 in Newcastle in June qtr 1921!

Thanks too, RTL, for the marriage info. I do think they are the likely parents of RB in Ryton in 1881, we now await further news from Pete.
John

[softly softly]

Thank you for the article, Jen.
Poor Robert seems to have had a tough few years after having injured himself.

I won't mention that there are two death registrations for Robert Bell age 57 in Newcastle in June qtr 1921!

Thanks too, RTL, for the marriage info. I do think they are the likely parents of RB in Ryton in 1881, we now await further news from Pete.
John

I will then, sod's law the article could refer to either.

SS