Bell family County Durham

[Ladyhawk]

See below link for Edwin's birth.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=896337.new#new

So his mother was Margaret Bell - SS well found and very kind of you to obtain the birth certificate 

[Ladyhawk]

On checking freeBMD I get 2 results when giving a yob as 1870.
Deaths Mar 1905 
Bell    Mary    34    Durham     10a   272    
BELL    Mary Ann    34    Sunderland 10a 390   
I am thinking the best option is the first one? (In 1901 she is at Black Row, Woodside, Ryton)

Another birth reg
BELL, NORMAN       
Mother's Maiden Surname: COLE 
GRO Reference: 1905  J Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 1136

Possible death Sep 1905 Gateshead 10a 573 Cole, Norman Age 0

Robert & Frances marriage Mar qtr. 1907

If that is the death of Robert & Mary’s son I wonder if this might be a possible entry for her death

BELL, MARY       37 
GRO Reference: 1905  D Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 558

From GRO indexes Digital Images are only available for Births 1837-1923 and Deaths 1837-1957
- cost £3.00

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[petey22]

Wow  this post has really taken off, fantastic information, many thanks!

I am trying to focus in on Robert Bell c 1862ish. From the census info he could have been born between 1860 - 64. He has places of birth given as Sheving Moor? Seaton and Co.Durham.
I have peaked at other trees and his parents are (among others) given as Robert and Isabella but offer no proof. I don't want to simply copy these trees as it seems many have done so without question.
There seem to be many Robert Bells knocking around at this point in time in the general area of County Durham,,,, so how to tie our Robert down to some parents  I usually end up making a huge list and eliminating them one by one at huge cost by ordering a hat load of certificates (mostly this raises more questions than was intended!)  Is there a better way of going about this?

[Ladyhawk]

I am trying to focus in on Robert Bell c 1862ish. From the census info he could have been born between 1860 - 64. He has places of birth given as Sheving Moor? Seaton and Co.Durham.

I have peaked at other trees and his parents are (among others) given as Robert and Isabella but offer no proof. I don't want to simply copy these trees as it seems many have done so without question.

There seem to be many Robert Bells knocking around at this point in time in the general area of County Durham,,,, so how to tie our Robert down to some parents 
I usually end up making a huge list and eliminating them one by one at huge cost by ordering a hat load of certificates (mostly this raises more questions than was intended!)  Is there a better way of going about this?

If you haven’t already done so I would certainly start by obtaining Robert & Mary's marriage to confirm father’s name and occupation

It would certainly seem that Robert Bell married for a second time to Frances Janet Hooks nee Alexander, her name appears on his Army Record (sorry can't add a snippet of it on this post as it's on the lookup board)
   
Armstrong Bell
Document Date   1915
Residence Place   Orchard Avenue, Rowland S Gill, Co Durham
Military Date   1915
Regimental Number   3009
Regiment Name   Royal Field Artillery, Northumbrian Brigade
Number of Images   24
Form Title   Attestation
NOK father Robert Bell
UK, British Army World War I Service Records, 1914-1920 - image on Anc*y

If you can narrow down his birth record on FreeBMD with a registration district you could check GRO indexes for mother's maiden name and obtain an instant digital image, then look for his parents marriage

[Ladyhawk]

Are these the censuses you have for him?

1911c
Robert Bell age 51 born Durham occupation miner
Frances, William Hooks, James Hooks, Margaret Bell 16, Armstrong Bell 18, Elizabeth Bell 13, Nora Hooks, Robert Bell 3, Edwin Bell 3 mths

1901c
Robert Bell age 37 born (county ditto North’d) Seaton Delavel occ coal hewer
Mary 30, Thos 10, Margt. 8, Armstrong 6, Mary Eliz 3 & Alice L 2 mths

1891c
Robert Bell age 28 born Durham She?ing Moor occ coal miner
Mary 20, Robert 1 & Thomas C 5 mths

Seaton Delaval Northumberland is in the registration district of Tynemouth - there are quite a few Robert Bell’s born between 1861 - 1866 Tynemouth as you say difficult to narrow it down

If you have his father’s name you could at least cross reference each of those individual mother’s maiden looking for a marriage entry on FreeBMD for a ? Bell to ?

[petey22]

Marriage certificate purchased, now its a question of waiting untill the certificate arrives here in Holland 

[Ladyhawk]

Marriage certificate purchased, now its a question of waiting untill the certificate arrives here in Holland 

Good news when you receive it please come back and let us know what it says 

[jonwarrn]

Not that it helps, there's this candidate in Ryton in 1881 (free index)
Robt Bell, Boarder, 20, Coal Miner, born Northumberland Seaton Delaval
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/7572/records/4690682

What happened to Robert, when did he die?