TRURO - Saunders - 1840's

[imison]

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in 1891;
Camberwell



Herbert SLOWMAN head mar 53 seaman b norfolk
Ellen SLOWMAN wife mar 52 b truro Cornwall

Looked for their son John SLOMAN (b 1880 in West Ham Essex) ... nothing ...so maybe he is the nephew living with Grace Lane nee Saunders who is also living in Camberwell in 1901,

what do you think ?

Deb

How strange - and the name has been altered to add a 'w' - SLOWMAN

not that that means anything as there are so many misspellings in the censuses, not to mention the people deciphering the handwriting for the official lists for Ancestry.

If John Saunders Duck is the same as John Slo[w]man I wonder how that came about?

That is a mystery and I wonder if perhaps John Sloman/Slowman is at sea, following his father into the navy/merchant navy as he is the son who is supposed to have been a 'sea captain'.

[deb usa]

 

Yes, Ellen was with her sister, Elizabeth and her dad , William in 1881 ...  maybe she was pregnant with john S duck .... Blimey I have run out of ideas .... the only one left is that John S Duck was a great nephew of Grace Lane nee Saunders ......    

deb

[imison]

Dear Deb

I think there is a real problem with the name Sloman and Slowman.

Also their ages.

In 1891, Ellen and Herbert are given one set of ages, but 10 years later they are NOT 10 years older.

Yet it seems very strange that there is a HERBERT SLOWMAN an able seaman, from Yarmouth, and an ELLEN SLOWMAN who comes from Truro.  Surely they are the same people.

I just think it might be the vagaries of the enumerators - maybe I will have to go to the BMD to see if there is a Herbert Slo/w]man marrying Ellen Saunders.

Because in the 1881 census, Ellen is 38 isn't she?

Which would make her 58 in 1901?

[imison]

Dear Deb

What fascinates me and makes me think that the enumerator got the names and ages WRONG in 1901 is that the HERBERT AND ELLEN SLOWMAN family unit are living just up the ROAD in Grove Lane, Dulwich, Camberwell, parish of St Giles as Grace Lane.

I cannot believe that this is coincidental

[deb usa]

Imison

You are right about the ages being all up the pole ....lol ..I rechecked and on the 1901 census ...Ellen Slowman is def 52... maybe she forgot how old she was ....

The fact that we have a married couple with the correct  forenames and surname (albeit incorrectly spelled) , the correct Place of birth for both and the correct occupation for Herbert.... I am thinking , that this is the parents of John....

deb

[imison]

Yes, I wonder if the enumerator wrote it down wrongly maybe from inaccurate information!

I have found a HERBERT SLOMAN aged 3 in Great Yarmouth Norfolk in 1851.  Unfortunately the source has been typed as YAMMOUTH but it is YARMOUTH.

This would be the SAME Herbert Sloman / Slowman as in 1901.  But if the enumerator can spell their name incorrectly - either in 1851, 1891 or 1901, then what else can be incorrect perhaps?

Maybe it was an 'off day' or just misheard it!

[deb usa]

 

What i was thinking earlier is that John S Duck is actually John Slo(w)man and he is visiting his aunty Grace up the road during the 1901 census ...

The fact that John Sloman and John Duck are the same age and born on the same place ...makes me wonder ....
Also I searched the 1901 census for a John SLO(W)MAN ...on vessels or in the Navy ...and came up empty ....

Another thing .... I CANNOT find John S DUCK in 1891.... where is he??
John s Duck only appears on the 1901 census with aunty Grace and on Free BMD... there is no other info on him.

any suggestions LOL

Deb

[imison]

And of course, if the SAME enumerator was not thinking straight on the day - who knows what was wrong in that road!  It makes one wonder how much can be relied upon - maybe the person simply was unable to concentrate. 

John S Duck
John Saunders Duck Nephew
John Sloman

so very strange - and I am sure it is NOT Slowman but SLOMAN as the Sloman family are in 1851 and in Great Yarmouth, all living together, with their 3 year old Herbert Sloman.

[deb usa]

Imison

I really wouldn't worry about the misspelling of Sloman/Slowman.... i had a person in my family who was an Amelia KNORRITON on the marriage cert ...turned out her name was actually CARNATON ... they were from Cornwall .... and what can I say about the Cornish accent except that I love it ...but many people cannot understand it ....

deb