Willam Merritt Gillam

[Pete44]

Debbie, many thanks, Pete44

[DebbieG]

me again

I put a request on the Middlesex board for Charlotte in 1851 as I couldn't see her and Meliora found her -

1851 census
HO107/1581  folio  572  page 27
1, Rye Lane   St Giles  Camberwell

Charlotte Plum   Wid  age 50    Fundholder  b   Kent
Alexander C Gilham ?  grandson  age 5   b  East Indies. Brit.
Emma South   serv  age 19   servant  b  Kent

Charlotte's age is shown as 50 in the index but I read it as 58 also  I read Kent as Herts., the page is dark & smudged.

In 1841 she(45)  and Thomas (50) are in St Marys Whitechapel  with daughter Eliza (20)

from the IGI they also had a son Frederick Barclay Plum in 1822 - I wonder what happened to him?

Debbie

[Pete44]

Thanks again Debbie

I haven't acted on your info yet but you seem to have some hopeful leads there. I did a Wm Gillam internet search today, hundreds of them, found nothing interesting. Did find a Wm/Charlotte Gillam living in Brighton (1871/81 Census) but convinced no connection. Also looked for anything on 'The Breamar' again no success.

Interesting you mention 'Kent' I have some original letters that originated in Kent in 1907 starting 'My Dear Gillam' which isn't much help, names are mentioned but nothing fits the jigsaw as yet. I also have an original shool certificate from a school in Essex for a William Gillam in 1856, what with the Countesthorpe and India connections can see this being a tough one to crack but makes it all the more challenging.

I'll keep you informed of progress

Pete

[DebbieG]

Hi Pete

I have been playing on the PRO web-site wills section today and have turned up a couple more bits

the first is there is a will for Thomas Plum
Officer in the Service of the East and West India Dock Company
of No 216 Whitechapel Road Middlesex
20 October 1846   -  I think this could well be Charlotte husband and therefore grandfather of William Merritt Gillam

the other one may not be connected at all but there is a will of Benjamin Gillam Maurice - Surgeon
late of the Madras Army. of Clifton 
Gloucestershire
2 Feb 1844

from the IGI

BENJAMIN GILLAM MAURICE
baptised 2 JAN 1792 at Lewins Mead Presbyterian Or Unitarian
Bristol son of Joseph & Elizabeth

Joseph Maurice = Elizabeth Gillam 17th May 1769 at St Nicholas Bristol

Do you know of any Bristol connection? - this may be a red herring though

Debbie

[Pete44]

Debbie you're a gem wish I had your time to spare.

Bristol connection, not as yet but did once have an inquiry from someone looking for a 'Gillam' relative, a vicar, in that area but could see no connection to me, another branch maybe.

I'll get back to you once I've had a chance to digest your info

Again many thanks
Pete

[Pete44]

Hi Debbie

I have managed to trace the paper trail of most of the info you have given me and made sense of it.

Can I ask you where you found the info on your note - 26 Jan at 1712. I have searched the 1851 and 1841 Census's on two websites I have access to and nothing found.

I think I have come to a halt with Wm Gillam Snr, I see there are a few publications on the East India Company, one with index of names (may find something there). I will visit my local Ref Library when time allows, otherwise I will see what I can turn up when I visit Countesthorpe, hopefully in Sept. 

Again many thanks for finding the breakthough

Pete

[DebbieG]

Hi Pete

The 1841 census reference is HO107/717/4 fo 9 - St Mary Whitechapel

I didn't find the 1851 - but I did check it, HO107/1581 fo ?? (sorry I can't read it) but it is the Peckham area of Camberwell

She is clearly indexed as Charlotte Plum for both entries - fortunatly not a common name.

It seems there are deposited records of the East India Company in the British Library - unfortunatly I don't go to London any more, but perhaps you can find someone who does.

One other thing that came up was I noticed the reference to Soap manufacture on the 1891 census for William M.  Is there any earlier history in the family of soap manufacture do you know?  I found a reference to a James & Charles Gilham soap makers of London at around the turn of the 1800's and just wondered if there was a link.


Debbie

[janmoore]

snippets from rootsweb mailing lists for india

Imber Elizabeth to Gillam Robert 148 , 90 , 1874
Hirst Kate to Gillam Alfd. Lorne 290 , 118 , 1880


Here are the names from LDS film 1885606, Madras Service Army Lists ca.
1760-1858, Medical Personnel, (M)
MAURICE Benjamin Gillam

from the Bombay Times
Nov 1858
The P & O Co Steam ship BOMBAY
passengers;
from Southampton:
Mesdames Cust infant & serv, Nicholson, Gillam children & serv, Blinkhorn,
Beaumont child and serv, Sadford & son, Hileman, Speed, Townsend, Bristow
child & serv, Murray, Shea , E Rattley, G Garry, J Church..

Something completely different - did you know there was a street in Countesthorpe named Gillam Butts???

old message:knowhere
History of Countesthorpe  by Jayne Gillam (Member 87158) on 8-Jun-02 
Hello there! Do you have a local historian in Countesthorpe who knows of the areas origins, prominant families from the past etc? I would be grateful if someone could put me in touch with them. Jayne Gillam


http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Leicestershire/Countesthorpe.html
GILLAM Sydney No further information
GILLIAM Joseph Horace Private, 1st Battalion Leicestershire Regiment (27157). Died of wounds 13th September, 1917, aged 31. Born and resident Countesthorpe, enlisted Leicester. Buried at Bethune Cemetery. Lived on The Bank, Countesthorpe.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kayhin/61551c.html
Folio 131 Page 15

73,The Rectory,1,Richard T W Taylor,Head,U,59,,Rector Of St Mewan,Corfton Gloucestershire,,
,,,Anne Gillam,Servnt,U,,51,Housekeeper,Countesthorpe Leicestershire,,
,,,Thomas Gillam,Servnt,W,48,,Farm Bailiff & Gardener,Countesthorpe Leicestershire,,
,,,John Gillam,Pupil,U,19,,(Scholar),Thurlaston Leicestershire,,
,,,Ann M Keam,Servnt,U,,19,Kitchen Maid,St Mewan Cornwall,,

http://www.gritquoy.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I18828&tree=001Master
Lucy Elizabeth Gillam[1]
 1877 -

http://www.bmsgh.org/MembersInterests/G.htm
GILLAM +var Countesthorpe

Another 9 pages on Google (search terms: Countesthorpe Gillam)

Good luck

Jan

[sue 1950]

Hello Pete,
My ancestors came from Countesthorpe I went over there about 2 years ago I was given the name of a lady that had researched nearly everyone that had lived in Countesthorpe.
My names are Lord and Ringrose. Any way we went over to see her and I believe she said that she was a Gillam, so she would of done the Gillam tree going back as far as she could get
Sue