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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #225 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 10:29 BST (UK) »
My great grandmother is my most frustrating - I have her death certificate and that's about it!

Despite many efforts I haven't been able to find her birth, her marriage, family, her daughter's birth, nursing records... anything.  :(

There's a lot of stories about her, she was a suffragette, she went to prison for breaking windows, she was rich, she was in the QARANC during both wars, she was a midwife, she was born in Ireland, lived in Wales, had a Scottish husband - but everything I've been told about her hasn't yet been provable. So who knows how true it is??! With so many apparent details you'd think there'd be a trace somewhere!

She died in 1963 so it's not even like it's the far distant past.  :(
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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #226 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 10:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Rachel

Your great grandmother sounds an interesting lady  :) Why don't you start a new post on her and see if people can help?

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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #227 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 11:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Rachel

Your great grandmother sounds an interesting lady  :) Why don't you start a new post on her and see if people can help?

Monica

Hi Monica,

I her mentioned in this thread http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,369546.0.html and I think one more that I can't find so don't really know if I should start another! That thread is actually trying to find her daughter's birth - Bridget Fitzgerald is the lady.

Don't really know enough facts about her to give people a starting block.  ;D

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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #228 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 10:27 BST (UK) »
I have three main "lost souls" about whom I can discover nothing more: unlike Rachel (above), my main "thorn in my side" is someone about whom we knew practically nothing (just the legend that he fought in the Boer War and survived) and have now quite a bit of information - until he disappears ...

My gt-uncle, George Henry Stevens, was born in Calne, Wilts on 7 January 1875, to my (ironmongering) gt-gt grandfather and his (ex-school teacher) first wife who died shortly thereafter.  By the 1891 he had left home and was working in the Great Western Railway Hotel in Swindon as a porter, age 16. 

He is next found in central London where he joins the Royal Warwickshire Regiment, transfers to the 4th Hussars and is sent to India, from whence is he invalided home, having contracted syphillis which his medical record states to be highly prevalent in both the regiment and the station (Bombay).  He receives the usual treatments and is discharged as physically unfit.  Otherwise his records show him to be a good soldier.

At the start of the Boer War he enlists with the 1st Wilts Yeomanry and goes to South Africa for the duration, marrying Isabel Montague St. John Mildmay in January 1900 (south London).  They have two children (both of whom survived to adulthood but died without issue): George working as a commercial traveller and Isabel as a cashier.  In 1911, George enters his occupation on the census as "comedian and dancer" in south London, but by 1914 he is listed in Kelly's in Walthamstow representing a mineral water company ("Fidler & Stevens": Fidler being his full sister's married name - so this is a family enterprise).

After all that, you must be wondering why I list him as disappeared  :)!  Well, that is exactly what happens.  I have no sight of him or Isabel after the outbreak of WW1. 

The possibilities seem to be: (1) he had military experience (and an apparent liking for it) and he went back to soldiering.  There are 2 or 3 medal index cards which could belong to him and also two possible graves on the CWGC index; (2) his past (and infirmity) caught up with him and he either became insane or died, in London or elsewhere; (3) George and Isabel died in the'flu epidemic of 1918.  Or did Isabel survive him and perhaps re-marry?

Their son Edmond began working on transatlantic liners when he was only 16 at the end of WW1 - did he have to do this to support his mother and sister?  He later married and took US citizenship.  Did his parents join him?

Having watched George Henry's history fill out from a vague mention from my father's childhood to a varied and mobile career of a man with a family of his own I would dearly love to discover what became of him.  Did he die fighting in France, at home of the 'flu, insane in an asylum or live to a ripe old age?  There are no descendants to ask and (with such a common name) I don't know if I ever will discover his fate.  I'll keep trying though!  ;)

Rachel

Addendum 8.8.09:  Thanks to help received elsewhere on this site I have now found that George participated in and lived through WW1.  It's taken years but gradually we're filling out the picture!  Thanks to all who have helped.
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Stevens (Devizes, Calne, Wootton Bassett): Hunt (Milford/Lymington, Calne): Moore/Rudland (Ipswich): Whitlock (Pitton & Farley): Hayter (Whiteparish)

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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #229 on: Thursday 25 June 09 15:08 BST (UK) »
My Ggg Grandfather married his cousin Mary Nutt, she appears on the 1861 census with him, he remarried in 1863 and the certificate states him as a widower, but can't find a death record for Mary Nutt, but there is a Martha Nutt that died about the right time, the 1861 - 63 death records on ancestry are the typed ones now so they may have been mistranscribed from the original handwritten ones, so i may take a risk and order that certificate

Correction: I'm not looking for Mary Nutt's death doh! I mean Mary Adaway, cannot find a death record anywhere ???
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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #230 on: Monday 07 June 10 22:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Vicki,
Your Vendyback --Van der Beck's from Cambs caught my attention.
There were some De Coldham's in the 1220's from Cambridgeshire eg: Eustachius de Coldham. And my YDNA shows some De Beck 'ancestral cousin; connections back to the 1500's
Have any male Vendyback's done YDNA tests?
Are they Haplogroup I1?

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Gerard COLDHAM
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My ancestor Abraham Vendyback (Bendyback/Bendy) ‘appeared’ and then ‘disappeared’! He’s first found in Medbourne, Leics in 1778 when he married Ann Ashby. I have a suspicion he may come form the Van de Beck family in Thorney, Cambs, but I’ve never been able to find a baptism. Then his last child is born in 1795 and he completely disappears from the record. There’s no burial for him and in 1799 his wife, Ann is recorded as having an illegitimate child in the parish registers. He’s definitely my most frustrating brick wall!
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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #231 on: Sunday 17 April 11 08:04 BST (UK) »
MarieC (I think)  said a while back that perhaps some of the mssing ones could have gone away to search for gold....

here is the link to a miners site in NZ.

http://www.kaelewis.com/


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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #232 on: Sunday 17 April 11 14:34 BST (UK) »
Thomas and Sarah Jacques last seen in Suffolk about 1790. Married in Ufford in 1775.

Elizabeth Auber wife of Samuel last seen at her son Joseph's 1793 baptism in Shoreditch, London.

Until November 2009 I did have my 3xgreat grandfather Thomas Musgrave who vanished after 1891 without a trace in England and Wales. I later found that "lost" ancestor on a 1900 census - in Pennsylvania, America.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Which of your ancestors have disappeared?
« Reply #233 on: Monday 18 April 11 08:00 BST (UK) »
Hi,
My great uncle Godfrey Moore born 1866 Western Australia, went to the Boer War, came home, reapplied and got to South Africa as the war was finishing and disappeared into that great vast land.  I know he married, had a daughter and died there, but that is it (I have seen the death noticeof his wife, but that doesn't list his death, their marriage date, daughter's birth, daughter's marriage.)  So this one stays in the background and every now and again I bring it out and get frustrated again!
Then there is the usual greats granparents who don't die - and there is a big list as well as looking for their parents.
Bev
MOORE (Kent) & FRENCH (Sussex) & Western Australia, LOVE (Kent), ROPER 1810 (N Ireland). ADAM 1808 (Paisley), Scotland, Victoria & West Aust, TROTTER 1700's onwards  Northern Ireland, Scotland & Aust, FLAHERTY 1791/2 (Ireland) CHAPMAN (Kent) &  Western Australia, CARROLL & POWER. Ireland & Western  Australia, FISHER  Lancashire & Western Australia, FIDLER Denton, Lancashire, Victoria, MARSH Essex & Western Australia, COOPER - Southwark, London, Victoria
All to the lucky country.