Which of your ancestors have disappeared?

[DJFRENCH]

sorry, i should have looked at the beginning and shouldn't be doing this whilst at work !

No it's not my Edward .
Hope you all have a great weekend 
DJ

[saxonw.]

I have been looking for Benedict Blundell for ages! Born 1860 in Studley he is last seen with his family in Birmingham in 18981, In 1901 his wife Mary and is calling herself a widow. I went through the completer deaths (and no he's not the William  Bendict Blundell dying in Solihull in 1900- he is someone completely different). When I raised it with the family  sis got her notes out about the family written by my late uncle and his notes were" they got fed up with each other and rumour has it he has gone to the goldfields". I then discovered that his brother Joseph Born 1865  was also in the 1891 Census with his wife and family but in 1901 his wife  Jessie (admittedly she is still calling herself married but head of household) is with the children without him Coincidence? No sign of a death here either.

[lizdb]

. If John was the husband and father throughout, he would have died beetween 1896 (when Harry Was born) and 1901 Census.

drodgers

I looked through deaths 1895-1901, as I am sure you have done already, probably many times! to no avail, of course.
But I would think some more detective work could be done via the children. It might be worth getting little Harry's birth cert to see what it says about father - is it John Saberton? or John Saberton (dec'd), or someone completely different?
By the way, Harry was born Oct/Nov/Dec 1895, Wakefield area, ref 9c 69

[lizdb]

and a grandaughter Lily (22-Sep-1892 to 25-Jun-1906).  The only problem is that Robert and Harriett had no children.  I've found them on every census but no trace of any children.

You're very self controlled - if this was mine i just would so have to send for Lily's birth cert to find out who her parents were!

modified; I have just looked for her birth, she was not born locally. Possible candidates are:
Jul/Aug/Sep 1892 Gainsboro area
Jul/Aug/Sep 1892 Hartlepool area

Oct Nov/Dec 1892 Leeds area
Oct/Nov/Dec 1892 Amersham area

It would be good to find each of these 9 year old Lily's on the 1901 census. If the one buried with Robert & Harriett wasnt with them in 1901, she must have been somewhere.

Another idea is to look for wills for Robert and Harriett - often they are good at sorting out families - could well mention any children if there were any.

Also have you got their death certs? Who registered the death? maybe a son or daughter? or another grandchild? who knows.

I'm a trifle confused (I've probably missed something obvious) as to why you think a random Charles who turns up in 1881 in Epsom could be their son?

[KathMc]

I hadn't found Edward in the 1850 census, but I did just go back to double check  . Still not there. Phew. I did find him just now in the 1870, listed as E. Martin, still in Greenwood. This time his birth is listed as 1810 and he is listed as widowed. I don't have time now, but over the weekend I will take a look at the passenger lists and see what I can come up with for him. I think if you want to rule him out though, best to find the death date and get a cert. And then hope something is actually on it.

Kath

[Romilly]

Hi All,

What a fascinating thread this has turned out to be! (I have been following it all with interest).

I am hoping that the 1911 Census (whenever it becomes available) will solve some clues for me.

Best Wishes, Romilly.

[MarieC]

Thanks a million, Kath and hiraeth, for your help and thoughts!

Hiraeth, the passenger list sites I was able to look at didn't have boats coming into San Francisco.  Just ports on the east side.  New York seems to have been the biggest, so I suppose it is the most likely!  I don't know if it's possible to check US immigration records, but I will have a Google and see what I can find!!

Also, the outgoing UK passenger records may or may not be useful.  1890 onwards is too late for all my folks, except one couple.  A kind Rootschatter checked for that couple on findmypast.com, but the information is so sketchy and vague that I can't determine if it is them or not!!    And there is no word that the records are going to go earlier than 1890.

Kath, thanks for checking the 1850 census.  The fact that he is not there still leaves this person "in the frame" to be possibly mine!  I'd be grateful if you'd have a look at the passenger lists - as I say, I didn't come up with anything.  If he went, it would have been the 1850s, and his daughters were withdrawn from their school in 1855, so that is when poverty and an absent husband/father began to impact the family in England.  I don't know how to check US death records but will have a Google!

MarieC

[KathMc]

MarieC,

I had a look around the passenger lists but didn't find anything that fit. Obviously an Edwrad Martin of about the right age came from England at some point, but I couldn't find him. Again, I don't think much information is given on those either.

I think they do this on purpose. He's up there right now (wherever there is) having a good old hoot with my William. "Look at those ladies run around! They'll never find us."

Kath

[Tephra]

Would you tell them to give Ernest a nudge please Kath -  so he can tell me where he vanished to.


Barbara