George Thompson Moss son of Richard and Rebecca

[forsyth12]

Dear Pam
Sorry couldn't get back to you sooner.  Went to pick up the grandchildren from daycare, took them to their home, had dinner when their Mum and Dad got in from work, and have been home and been out for our daily walk!

Elizabeth died aged 92 in 1949 which would have made her birth year c1857 in Yorkshire.  We don't have any other information about her.  Although my husband has memories of stories about her working in the cotton mills at aged 8, one week working and one week at school.  The would walk home together and the middle one would sleep, supported by the other two.

No knowledge of any other Moss brothers coming to Australia, one brother of Elizabeths came and was know as Uncle Waterworth, and no knowledge of what happened to him.
We appreciate you assistance, we are quite new chums at this.
Regards
Sue and Ray

[down-under]

Elizabeth was a few years younger that George


Cannot seem to find a family in 1851 with James, Jane ,Richard,Hannah and Alfred

Could be a marriage??James Waterworth married Jane Holdsworth sept quarter 1843 Leeds Yorkshire 23 261

Richard Thomas Waterworth born 1844 Leeds Yorkshire June quarter 43 465



1861 RG9/3364 folio 48 page 8 Holbeck Yorkshire Reg district Hunslet

21 Frost? Row
James Waterworth age 37 Shoe j? smith born Harewood
Jane age 43 born Rothwell
Richard T son age 17 born Leeds Wool cloth dresser
Alfred son age 13 Woolen Cloth Dresser Leeds
Hannah M age 11 Flax Mill Halftime? Leeds
Mary age 6 born Bradford

Elizabeth A Waterworth age 5 born Leeds Yorkshire
next page
William H Waterworth age 2 born Leeds



1871 RG10/4535 folio 61 page 8 Wortley  Yorkshire


6 Whitehall Road
James Waterworth age 48 Blacksmith Harewood Yorkshire
Jane age 53 Rothwell
Richard Thomas son age 26 widower born Leeds cloth dresser
Mary age 16 born Bradford cloth weaver
Elizabeth age 14 born Leeds Woolen piecer
William Henry age 11 carper? born Leeds
Clara age 7 born Wortley


James Waterworth died 1879 March quarter age 55 Bramley Yorkshire 9b 295

1881 Wortley in Bramley
Reg district Bramley


address Nook
Jane Waterworth age 63 born Thorpe Yorkshire widow
Clara Waterworth age 17 Power and loom weaver born Wortley


Jane Waterworth died 1884 age 66 Bramley Yorkshire 9b 249 march quarter

Hope this is of some help

Pam

[forsyth12]

Dear Pam
Thanks again for your help.
The blacksmith seems to be the right one, have had another look at the death certificate and under parents it has not known but has the words blacksmith.

Elizabeth was a lot younger than George, she was only 19 when they left England, and she was a widow a long time.

Where is the best place online to follow up all these leads with the details of which page to find them on?
Thanks again
Sue and Ray

[down-under]

hello

The 1861 and 1871 censuses of James and Jane Waterworth are the same family 10 years apart
Wortley and Holbeck are around the same area.

The birth marriage and death certificates you can send on line to http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

First of all send for the certificates you are sure of like Elizabeths marriage certificate.


The census information that I have  looked up on line is from Ancestry I am a member.

Pam

[winston]

HI


Here is the Waterworth family spelt with 2 T's on the 1851 census at 21 Lower Hanover Street West Leeds, Yks


James Waterworth 1824  Blacksmith Harewood
Jane Waterworth 1818 Leeds
Richard Waterworth 1844 Leeds
John? Waterworth 1847 Leek Staffordshire?
Mary Waterworth 1850 Leeds

Just checked the birth index and there was a John Alfred Waterworth bn in 1847 Leek Staffordshire.


Wendy

[forsyth12]

  Thanks for your help.  I have ordered the marriage certificate for George and Elizabeth, so hopefully that will have her parents names on it to help us track that side of the family.

[forsyth12]

Dear Pam
Just to let you know that we are making good progress.
The Waterworth family is the correct one thank you.   The marriage certificate gave Elizabeth's father's name as Richard a machine smith of Holbeck.  The certificate came to Perth from UK in under 10 days from ordering.

I have been going through my late father in law's album and it is making more sense now.  Unfortunately he did not date items or give any real information.  A real lesson for everyone to leave detailed records and not just 'four generations' or 'yours truly' as descriptions on photos and dates are a big help too!

Elizabeth Ann had a brother Richard who came to Perth and died here, he was known as Uncle Waterworth, my husband and his sister did not know his first name and the album only refers to him as Uncle Waterworth.  However I have now done a search for a Waterworth at the cemetery and found Richard Thomas who died in 1921 aged 77.

In the last 24 hours I have had contact through GenesReunited from someone researching, George Thompson Moss,  someone else researching Rebecca Crosdale his mother and someone researching the Waterworth family and is related to Mary Anne sister to Elizabeth and Richard.    So with all that information to come we will make great steps forward.
Thanks again for your help to get us started in the right direction.
Kind regards
Sue and Ray

[down-under]

Dear Sue and Ray
Very glad to hear you are in contact with others researching
same family as you.


It is a pleasure when things come together.
Would you believe I live in Perth also.

PAm

[forsyth12]

Dear Pam

Very exciting news, Mary Waterworth came to Perth with her husband, we think maybe on the same ship as George and Elizabeth and her great grandson is living in Perth and we have made contact with them.  None of us can believe it yet!
Regards
Sue