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Re: Family rumours have they turned out to be true?
« Reply #162 on: Friday 26 January 07 21:35 GMT (UK) »
... and theologians often learn New Testament Greek, which isn't like modern spoken Greek AT ALL !

Welsh was on its way to becoming a dead language until 20 ?  50 ? years ago, when it was suddenly the in thing to be truly Welsh and speak the mother tongue ... even if it wasn't, in fact, your mother's tongue !

Nowadays we get all our bills here in both languages (at HUGE cost to us tax payers); all the road signs are in both; you phone the local museum or council office and always get greeted in Welsh, and then they continue in English ... and what I personally have a grouch about, is that kids in school have to learn Welsh as their second language, and if they can manage a third foreign language, they then go on to learn French or some other 'useful' language.      Grouch, grumble ...
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Re: Family rumours have they turned out to be true?
« Reply #163 on: Friday 26 January 07 22:57 GMT (UK) »
I always question why they bother making forms and things bi-lingual.  I used to work in student finance dealing with student loan application forms, which have a Welsh side and an English side.  Over the course of 10-weeks, we must have had a good few hundreds forms in.  You know how many students filled in the Welsh side?  Not a single one!  Not even the ones studying Welsh filled in the Welsh side! ::)  It's a waste of taxpayers money that would be better spent doing something a lot more useful...could start on improving the health service or the police force.
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Re: Family rumours have they turned out to be true?
« Reply #164 on: Friday 26 January 07 23:05 GMT (UK) »
My gran used to tell us that my Gt gran (grandads mum) was a French lady and a teacher (Caroline Berenger Cooper) and PrueM's gran told her that Caroline was the daughter of a wealthy merchant who remarried after her mothers death and when she was away at school (I think in Switzerland???) her father died and the step mum took the family fortune!!

The reality is Caroline was illegitimate, born Caroline Berenger Bigg, her mother (also Caroline) married a Cooper later on .... the French thing is there though, her sister in laws were born in France and were teachers................... so a tiny bit of truth but BIG Chinese whispers included  ;D
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Re: Family rumours have they turned out to be true?
« Reply #165 on: Friday 26 January 07 23:37 GMT (UK) »
We were always told that Great grandad was the result of a fling involving the local lord and an ag-labs wife; every Xmas, a pig would be delivered to their cottage from an anonymous benefactor who came from a place called Kingston.
 Once again, it's half true. In fact the mother was a labourer's widow who caught the eye of a local farmer from Kingston in Dorset, he DID look after the boy, but married the mother so it all appears to be above board.


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Re: Family rumours have they turned out to be true?
« Reply #166 on: Tuesday 30 January 07 19:04 GMT (UK) »
I was told by my father that his great grandfather had brothers called Tom,Dick and Harry.
I discoverd Tom and Dick and thanks to Rootschat found Henry (Harry)  ;D So a family myth proved. ;D ;D
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Re: Family rumours have they turned out to be true?
« Reply #167 on: Wednesday 31 January 07 00:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

Have enjoyed reading this thread. There's a few rumours in my family ... mostly which have been  wrong. But they have been amusing. Some may have originated when the families came to Australia to 'dress up' their UK past.

1. My maternal Grandmother says she accidently met her future husband's grandfather in Sunderland prior to immigrating to Australia. This would be difficult as she was born in 1914, and he died in 1906.

2. My gt-grandmother had an illegitimate girl in Britain around 1912, prior to marrying and moving to Australia. According to family rumour the 'girl' was reportedly given to an aunt to raise. However it was a boy! He was born in 1908 (when gt-granny was 16) but he appears to have been raised by the family of a cousin (Lovatts of Belvedere, Kent).

3. Some politicans in the family. Some truth in this. Poynton family had one Australian Senator and two lord mayors in Australia. None so far in the UK. 

4. Unusual rumour... there's lots of engineers in the Hedley family. One part of the family is supposedly related to William Hedley who invented a steam train, the Puffing Billy.  So far unproven, must be a very loose connection. But found theres lots of mariners and marine-related professions from Sunderland.

5. According to rumour, my Gt Uncle came to Australia to learn how to run a cattle property in Queensland. It seems the family paid to send him to Australia for training after he got a household maid pregnant.

But there have been a few family details which were proven correct... a maternal Gt-Granny in Sunderland inheritated money from a wealthy aunt who she lived with for a while, a maternal Gt-grandfather managed Speedings tent making company, then estalished a similar tent production firm in Australia, and a paternal Gt-Grandmother (former shopkeeper) told my mother that her toddler son (my brother) was good with money. This last one still causes much amusement in the family. Her prediction was correct... He became an accountant.     

Cheers CJ Thorpe
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Re: Family rumours have they turned out to be true?
« Reply #168 on: Wednesday 31 January 07 01:48 GMT (UK) »
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Gt-Grandmother (former shopkeeper) told my mother that her toddler son (my brother) was good with money. This last one still causes much amusement in the family. Her prediction was correct... He became an accountant.     


Are you sure?

What have the two in common!! ;D ;D

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Re: Family rumours have they turned out to be true?
« Reply #169 on: Wednesday 31 January 07 21:48 GMT (UK) »

Giggle!  :D

Sorry Cheshire Cat/Keith, I think it is more of an insiders family joke!

I was fascinated gt-granny's prediction came true ... Perhaps it was as a result of a tough life and a knowledge of lots of things. The older generation still refer to my brother as 'canny' and seek him out at family functions for tax, retirement, and financial advice. 

Does the nickname Cheshire Cat mean you have a large grin and a good sense of humor?

Cheers CJ Thorpe
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Re: Family rumours have they turned out to be true?
« Reply #170 on: Wednesday 31 January 07 22:47 GMT (UK) »
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Does the nickname Cheshire Cat mean you have a large grin and a good sense of humor?
Cheers CJ Thorpe
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It means all that - plus I was born and "dragged up" in Cheshire!!  ;D

And with family history you need a sense of humour - especially when some most of the relations are  prone to tell fibs lie!! ;) :o

Cheers

Keith  ;D
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