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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #126 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 08:47 BST (UK) »
Hi
 I am researching my family tree and have got back as far as a James Graham who was born 1800 in Farlam, Cumberland, he had a daughter Rebecca born 1825 and son James born 1844, they lived in Talking, Cumberland in 1861. Im struggling to find anything before James 1800

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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #127 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 10:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Jeanette

Welcome to Rootschat!  Enjoy !  It's great fun and you'll get loads of help.

You'll have gathered there are quite a few Grahams in this neck of the woods!

Thank you for all the information you gave us, but as it's such a common name could you give even more?!?

Could you tell us where you got the information you have?  Have you seen registers or only the ones copied online?  I'm just thinking you usually get too many, not too few Grahams, and maybe you went beyond the dates available, and it may be worth looking in the originals on film in the record office.

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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #128 on: Wednesday 19 October 11 10:15 BST (UK) »
Hi again  :)

Another thought!

Do you have the exact information for the birth or christening - date and parents?  Or is it from a census?

Do you have the same for the birth of his children?  And similar information from his marriage?
Also 1851 and 1841?

Maybe you could post the exact information to help identify him.  I could check the originals for more clues if you haven't seen them.  If you don't have them maybe you could post the earliest exact details ypou have?

Sorry if I sound fussy, but especially with a local name like Graham, the more we know the more chance of helping.

Enjoy!

It's great fun!

Best wishes

Emms :)

If you don't have it, maybe you could post the earliest
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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #129 on: Saturday 22 October 11 15:12 BST (UK) »
Hi some more on my graham family - James Graham born 1800 in Farlam Cumberland deid 1880  possibly buried at Talkin Cumberland
His Son was James Graham 1844 unknown date of death
daughter Rebecca 1825 unknown death - as far as I know they both lived with their father at Farlam. Son James married a Jane ? DOB 1851 they had a son Matthew (my grandfather ) born in Blackford he married a Sarah Ada Marrs 1899 who lived St Ann's Carlisle - they had son Ronald Graham 1928 ( my father) as well as son's Jackie, Mathew daughters Agnes and Audrey. If anyone has any more information regarding James born 1800 please drop me a line

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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #130 on: Sunday 23 October 11 14:41 BST (UK) »
A bit of a early one for you Papamoa,

Do you have a baptism/christening for a Jhaine Grame of [P]lump, (Jane Graham of Plomp) in your collection, she would have been born about 1600 and married Lancelot Armstrong of Whithaugh in Oct 1625 at Arthuret.


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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #131 on: Monday 21 November 11 16:09 GMT (UK) »
These Grahams do like to confuse their ggggggrandchildren!

My Grahams trace back to a John Graham born c 1801 Blitterlees and is listed as a roadmarker in several of the later census returns. He appeared to marry Margaret? from walk mill Scotland (b c1796) and they had two sons, Adam Graham (1826) and John Graham (1831). Adam Graham is my ggg grandfather. He had one son John Grey Graham born in Wigton about 1854.

I am guessing here that Adam may have been illegitimate (that margaret may have been pregnant when marrying John) because why called the second son after the father and not the first? The other reason for this is that I have taken a DNA test and we are (as far as genetics are concerned) Johnstones and not Grahams.

Does this ring any bells with anyone?
Graham, Johnstone, Brunton, Glendinning, Hails, Greenhow, Bainbridge

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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #132 on: Monday 21 November 11 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Grahams, Johns(t)ons, Armstrongs!  All Border Reivers and probably all related. bob
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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #133 on: Tuesday 22 November 11 13:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bob... I agree. My DNA results came back with many other names that would be well known to the wardens of old... Irvings, Armstrongs, Elliot etc. However I had many Johnstones. Far more than any others and it all points to an NPE. My guess (without a paper trail) is that a young pregnant Johnstone widow travelled the few miles from Annan to Esk and married in to the Grahams. The Maxwells did have a habit of attacking the Johnstones from time to time!
Graham, Johnstone, Brunton, Glendinning, Hails, Greenhow, Bainbridge

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Re: Graham's of Cumberland
« Reply #134 on: Wednesday 23 November 11 17:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,
Trying to trace the ancestors of Mary Jane Graham born 1867 in Scaleby, married Thomas Alexander Gunn (of Brora, Sutherland)  in Smithfield, Kirklinton Middle in 1899 and moved to Distington.
Her mother was Margaret Graham born 1845 in Scaleby daughter of John Graham b 1808 Kirklinton and Jane Graham b 1809.
I know nothing of Mary Jane's father or the family beyond John Graham.
Any help would be appreciated
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