Graham's of Cumberland

[Jessy]

Hi Anna,  Sorry cant find the name your looking for in the Grahams - still looking.  They seem to be all Charles, James and Mallas??

Hu Bruce,  B and Bs in Longtown.  High street have a "Home from Home" and up past Netherby Hall about 5 miles there is Craigburn Farmhouse and also  Bessiestown.  All three look nice.  Great food at Craigburn.  All on website.  Of course the Grahams do have a cottage they let out as well ask when yu email her.  Let me know how you get on.  Jess

[kena]

Hi Jessy, Thanks very much for taking the time and trouble to look for me, look forward to hearing from you if you are able to find anything for me.

Anna

[Jessy]

Anna, Re Margaret Graham do you have names of siblings???  I have found a Margaret Robert Elizabeth Eleanor and Thomas born to William and Jane Graham about this time.  Am I looking in the right family?
William and Jane were married at Arthuret .  Still nothing on a Gabriel.  Jess

[kena]

Hi Jessy, Thanks for that, unfortunately I don't have any other siblings of Margaret at the moment.

Thanks again

Anna

[Papamoa]

Good morning everyone,

I haven't been here for a few days so I will have to have a read back over recent postings to see if I should be answering someone.

Anna,

I found this posting on a website that may interest you.

 GRAHAM, Gabriel Butcher, died 14.03.1769 [Monumental Inscription St Cuthbert’s Yard]

The website (which you may all find interesting) is

www.carlislehistory.co.uk

Go to page "A-Z of Carlisle's history and then scroll down to Graham entries.

Have a great day.

Bruce

[Papamoa]

Hi Jessy,

Thanks for the B&B's, I shall have a look at them on the web.  Home from Home in Longtown is probably the most suitable.

How's the research going? I have sent off an E-mail to Serena but as yet no reply.  I shall let you know when I receive one.

Best regards, Bruce, from a very hot sunny day.

[Papamoa]

Hi Lornahen,

I have been looking at various census records and was unable to find your James Turnbull/Jane Graham on 1861 lists which suggests they may have emigrated to NZ before 1861.  I have been on IGI and found the marriage date/place .. 22nd June, 1852 at Nicol Forest. -- Batch Number M035601
Christenings of children, all at Nicol Forest are Batch Number C035601
Robert .. 24th April, 1853
Ellen .. 20th August, 1854
Stephen .. 16th March, 1856
James .. 24th December, 1858

You may already have this information but better to have it twice than not at all.

Best regards, Bruce

[Papamoa]

Hi again LornaHen,

I am sure you will find the following very interesting.

Dear Bruce - you wrote

> I have just had an enquiry from a researcher in the UK.  They are
> looking for a James Turnbull and his wife Jane (nee Graham) who
> apparently arrived in New Zealand from UK about 1862-4 and settled in
> Taranaki.  They were married in Nicol Forest, Cumberland, England, in
> 1852 and came out with some of their children (don't know how many).


There is a transmission document in the LINZ records New Plymouth dated 19 Mar 1891 R22/22 for James TURNBULL of Huirangi, farmer. As this is in a deeds index it is unable to be photocopied - probably now held at LINZ Wellington processing centre

Similarly for Jane - same address details - declaration as widow of Huirangi R43/229 - so this looks like your couple?

1881 electoral roll shows
Electorate Taranaki
Number 767
Surname TURNBULL
Given Names James
Nature Of Qualification Freehold
Place Of Residence Huirangi
Occupation Farmer
For Property Qualification Huirangi,63.

1893 roll shows
Surname TURNBULL
Given Name James
Number 2384
Electorate New Plymouth
Voting Qualification Freehold
Residential Address Huirangi
Occupation Farmer
Property Detail Sec. 63, Huirangi

Surname TURNBULL
Given Name Robert
Number 2386
Electorate New Plymouth
Voting Qualification Residential
Residential Address Huirangi
Occupation Farmer

Surname TURNBULL
Given Name Stephen
Number 2387
Electorate New Plymouth
Voting Qualification Residential
Residential Address Huirangi
Occupation Farmer

Surname TURNBULL
Given Name William
Number 2388
Electorate New Plymouth
Voting Qualification Freehold
Residential Address Manutahi
Occupation Farmer
Property Detail Sec. 90, Huirangi

Surname TURNBULL
Given Name William
Number 2389
Electorate New Plymouth
Voting Qualification Residential
Residential Address Junction Rd
Occupation Farmer

You might want to check ARCHWAY for probate records - the transmission document for 1891 appeared to be a will but could be some sort of transfer within the family?

Also WW1 nominal records could be useful - I see that there are a few for the New Plymouth area.

Hope this gives you something to go on with

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I hope this helps you.

Best regards, Bruce

[Papamoa]

Hi again LenaHen.

More information pasted below.  I would suggest that you contact Stehen Donald directly and thank him for what he has supplied.

Best regards, Bruce

Dear Bruce
Forgot to say that Jane's LINZ entry was for 1907 - so that makes sense of the other entry for James. Following entry in Burial Locator might confirm something for you?
 
Source New Plymouth District Council
Record Type B/R
Year of Death 1907
Surname TURNBULL
Given Names Jane
Age 87
Location Cemetery in New Plymouth District
 
 Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Record Number 35
Record Type M/I
Year of Death 1907
Surname TURNBULL
Given Names Jane
Age 88
Location Huirangi Cemetery Taranaki J02.11
 
 Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Record Number 35
Record Type M/I
Year of Death 1891
Surname TURNBULL
Given Names James
Age 70
Location Huirangi Cemetery Taranaki J02.11
 
Source New Plymouth District Council
Record Type B/R
Year of Death 1891
Surname TURNBULL
Given Names James
Age 70
Location Cemetery in New Plymouth District
 
Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Record Number 113
Record Type M/I
Year of Death 1952
Surname TURNBULL
Given Names Andrew
Age 68
Location Huirangi Cemetery Taranaki J02.11
 
 Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Record Number 84
Record Type M/I
Year of Death 1953
Surname TURNBULL
Given Names Charlotte Clara
Age 89
Location Huirangi Cemetery Taranaki J02.11
 
 Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Record Number 113
Record Type M/I
Year of Death 1917
Surname TURNBULL
Given Names Helen
Age 56
Location Huirangi Cemetery Taranaki J02.11
 
 Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Record Number 113
Record Type M/I
Year of Death 1922
Surname TURNBULL
Given Names Robert
Age 70
Location Huirangi Cemetery Taranaki J02.11
 
 Source NZSG Cemetery Fiche
Record Number 84
Record Type M/I
Year of Death 1929
Surname TURNBULL
Given Names Stephen
Age 73
Location Huirangi Cemetery Taranaki J02.11
 
 So it looks to me that you might have yourself a family too
 
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