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Godmanchester info please
« on: Saturday 20 January 07 14:40 GMT (UK) »
 Hello All,
I would like to ask for your help in trying to knock down a brick wall. Having had no luck in the direct approach, i am trying the sdeways attack.
Simon Battle has been found for me in Godmanchester, he appears to be related to Mitten Battle in Blunham ,Bedfordshire in 1820. Mitten is my 2 x great grandfather, but cannot find his parents, or his birth, hence the sideways attack. Both Simon & Mitten are married to Richardson girls, there are sisters Ann & Lucy, daughters of Samuel & Eleanor, who are I'm sure correct. I have the details of the family upto today, but could someone please light the fuse to blow up my brick wall.
All help greatly appreciated,
Best wishes Peter.
Battle - Blunham, Bedfordshire.
Baker - Kingsley, Headley, East Wellow, Tuxlith, Hampshire &  Croydon, Surrey.
Arnold - Holybourne, Hants.
Gates - Holybourne, Hants
Davies - Croydon & Hackney
Kearns - Co Tyrone, N. Ireland (also Cearns)
Magill - Co Donegal, Ireland
Whitmarsh - East Wellow, Hampshire

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Re: Godmanchester info please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 February 26 19:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Peter, did you get anywhere with this?
I am researching the same family. It seems as if Mitten and Simon emerge from nowhere!
I would be grateful for any hard facts.
Regards, Linda

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Re: Godmanchester info please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 February 26 20:43 GMT (UK) »
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR
 & N. YKS,
Crawhall & Ions Weardale
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Bareš, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Straka & others from Czechia
Endesfelder from Saxony
Ripke from Poland

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Re: Godmanchester info please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 February 26 21:07 GMT (UK) »
I would see if you can track down this will, seeing as Mitten & Simon are brick makers.

RefNo
   KAH/16/2/170/2
AltRefNo
   AH16:dated 1832/2
Title
   Battle, Leonard - Brickmaker of Godmanchester: will
Date
   1832
CreatorName
   Archdeaconry of Huntingdon
Repository
   Huntingdonshire Archives

Another mention of Leonard a brick maker...same man?

https://calm.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=KFIELDEN%2fF3%2f4%2f2&pos=16
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR
 & N. YKS,
Crawhall & Ions Weardale
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Bareš, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Straka & others from Czechia
Endesfelder from Saxony
Ripke from Poland


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Re: Godmanchester info please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 February 26 23:12 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, I had seen details of Leonard, but haven't yet found anything to make a positive link.
Maybe the Will is the answer, I will chase it up....

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Re: Godmanchester info please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 February 26 13:41 GMT (UK) »
LEONARD was buried 31 Oct 1832 St Mary the Virgin, Godmanchester
Age 94
Birth c 1738

So may be the Leonard who married 16 Nov 1762 Cambridgeshire to Elizabeth MITTEN

Marriage for other various Leonards;
15 Oct 1787 Ramsey to Eleanor LOVEN (Son?)
17 Aug 1813 Ramsey to Mary ASHER
01 Sep 1817 Ramsey to Elizabeth FORDHAM, as a Widower

I did notice a THOMAS Battle in Blunham also born c 1799 Ramsey, Hunts
A Brickmaker
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LEONARD Battle c 1796, Tile Maker, in Essex 1841, not born in County
Anc has a bapt 1 March 1797 Ramsey to LEONARD/ELEANOR age 5, + WILLIAM bapt same day no age given
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STEPHEN Battle bapt 1 Aug 1801, born 1 Mar. 1800 to LEONARD/ELEANOR

Bit confusing as Stephen is unm on Census and 1851 is with Mother ELIZABETH.
Could this be his Step Mother?
Relating to Marriage of Leonard a widr who remarried 1817 to Elizabeth Fordham?
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 February 26 13:50 GMT (UK) »
Wow thanks, lots of interesting info here.
I will try to make sense of all the names and dates. It's a proper detective story!

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 February 26 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Marriages are on FreeREG www.freereg.org.uk

Have a look over my info and post later what you think.
As I am Australia will not be back on here until tomorrow night my time.

Logging off soon as  nearly 1 in the morning here.

Hopefully others still up in the UK can help :)

Yes a detective story is often what genealogy is!
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Godmanchester info please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 February 26 23:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trish
Thanks for all your ideas; I have spent the day searching, but there are not many facts, just assumptions.
I have found more brickmakers; there is also a William b. abt 1799,  in St.Ives in 1851.
And another William b.1820, in Blunham, from a different branch.
I need to keep looking, and try to prove that Mitten is Simon's son; it looks likely but no records to prove it.....
Nearly midnight in UK, I'm off to bed now, more to do in the morning.
Linda