Is this one impossible?

[2zpool]

Tanfield St. Margaret

Eleanor Frost bapt 12 May 1816 d/o Joshua and Dorothy
Isabella Frost bapt 22 Nov 1818 d/o Joshua and Dorothy
Mary Frost bapt 31 March 1822 d/o Joshua and Dorothy
Dorothy Frost bapt 8 July 1827 d/o Joshua and Dorothy

Robert Frost bapt 31 July 1814 s/o Joshua and Mary

Janis

[HalifaxImp]

Hello to all - this is my first post!
Found this thread by searching - I'm helping my father-in-law with his Farrar tree. Did this thread just fizzle out, or was some progress made with John Farrar? I found the "Farron" entry for the 1871 census (I've made the correction in Ancestry), and was puzzled by the "St Helens" birthplace. But, it turns out to be true! I've found the Farrar family in the 1851 census in Eccleston, St Helens, Lancashire. The key is that James Farrar is recorded as a Copper Smelter, the same occupation as he has on John and Mary's marriage certificate.
If anyone out there is still persuing this line, please respond.
Best wishes
Howard

[geordiegal]

hi there Howard, it was good to get another reply to this post after so long.. i,m still looking for John Joseph Farrar, and unfortunatly haven't gotten much further than i had before!! John Joseph is my great great grandad so i'd really love to know more. i do now have a few more dates etc. from the records office concerning his wife Mary Frost, but as i say, John is still a mystery, i would love just one tiny breakthrough!! I'd love to stay in touch though as i'm sure any help you could offer would be invaluable. Thanks again. Laura.

[HalifaxImp]

Hi Laura
Really pleased that you replied.
I think that I've solved some of the mystery.
As I said, the key was finding James Farrar (John's father) in the 1851 census.
The information there is
James Farrar 43 - Copper Smelter
Ann Farrar 47
James Farrar 19
John Farrar 18
William Farrar 16
Mary Farrar 13
Edward Farrar 10
Henry Farrar 7

This in Eccleston, St Helens, Lancashire.

Then using this, going back to the 1841 census, we find

James Farrar 30
Sarah Farrar 30
James Farrar 10
John Farrar 9
William Farrar 4
Mary Farrar 2

Again in Eccleston

So John's mother was probably Sarah, who then died between 1841 and 1851, James re-marrying Ann.

If you then start to look for John Farrar in St Helens, you find a Christening record for 10 Feb 1833 for John Joseph Farrer, parents John Farrer and Sarah.

And here we are!! So the information in the 1871 census for John Joseph is correct, but he somehow changes his birthplace for the 1881 and 1891 censuses.

I can't find John in the 1861 census, but I haven't given up.

Hope this helps!

Kind Regards

Howard

[HalifaxImp]

Hi again Laura

If it's OK, I'd like to PM some more recent stuff.

Howard

[Tini]

Hi,
 Was interested to see the Frost family info in your post. I'm currently trying to hunt down information about Joshua Frost born 1849 in Tanfield (son of Dorothy Frost). From his baptism record (1860) his step-father was Thomas Davenport. I know he was illegitamate and initially had his fathers surname, which I don't know (think he's the Joshua Galls? in the 1851 census). Would be interested to see what you've found out about Mary Frost (I guess she's the cousin of Joshua).

Thanks

[geordiegal]

hi tini.. i will get as much info on mary and any i have on joshua on here as soon as i can.. shouldn't be too long so keep checking.
Best wishes, Laura

[Tini]

Thanks Laura, will keep checking. Much appreciated.