John Swindells and Deborah Worrall

[StarBlueUK]

Hi. I have been tracing my ancestors and found what I believe to be a marriage record on familysearch.org for ancestors but I am not certain. John Swindells and Deborah (maiden name unknown) had at least four children who qare all buried with them in St. Mary's C of E at Alderley Edge:

Mary b. 1788
Elizabeth b. 1794
John b. 1797
Hannah b. 1800

I found a marriage record on familysearch.org for a marriage between John 'Swindal' and Deborah Worrall in 1785 in Runcorn, Cheshire. I think this is the marriage of my ancestors, but I am not sure. Does anyone have any advice as to how I can prove whether this record is for my ancestors' marriage or not?
Many thanks,

Sam

[StarBlueUK]

Sorry. I've realised that I've put this post in the wrong place. My apologies for that.

[JDGen]

Hi Sam,

Not a problem.

I think I would email Cheshire Records Office and ask them for the details of the marriage at Runcorn.  They may do this for free, or you could pay a fee for a photocopy (you could order this online at their website: http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/recoff/home.htm

This may give you names of witnesses and if John was from the Runcorn parish or elsewhere which would help you to establish if he is the right person and give you a starting point.

It may also help to post on here the information that leads you to believe that John Swindells and Deborah are your ancestors so we can help with ideas.

Hope this helps,

Jean

[Elizabeth Revel]

Dear StarblueUK,

Have you traced your family back in the census to 1841? This will give you a hint as to where they were living at that time. You could then order the appropriate church records of the area from a local Family History Centre and work backwards from there.

By the way, I have a Rebecca Swindells who married William Turner in 1891 at Trafford. There were, however, no children of this marriage.

Beth

[StarBlueUK]

Hi Jean and Beth-

I found the 1841 census very useful but now I am at the point where it looks like parish records are starting to be the way to go and I don't know a whole lot about getting parish records beyond familysearch.org! So, I could really just contact Cheshire and get a photocopy of the parish record? And parish records have the same amount of information on them as certificates from 1837 onwards?

I am convinced that John Swindells and Deborah are my ancestors because of the 1841 census. I traced back my ancestors to a William Minshall, who I found on the 1841 census living in Alderley with Deborah Swindells, Hannah Minshall b. 1800 and twin babies b. 1838 Elizabeth Ann and John Minshall. The father's name and profession (Thomas Minshall butler/butcher) on the twins' birth certificates was the same as on William Minshall's marriage certificate, and in addition, William was living in Alderley at the time of his marriage. The birth certificates stated that the mother was Hannah Minshall nee Swindells, so I guessed that she must be the daughter of Deborah. I ordered Deborah's death certificate and it stated that she was the widow of one John Swindells.

Many thanks,

Sam