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Re: Mt. Jerome Cemetery Graves
« Reply #135 on: Monday 06 August 12 15:33 BST (UK) »
Hi again
thanks for your ongoing assistance!
Richard Dancey died 10 Dec 1911 & I have got the details of his plot from Mt Jerome - plot no A (or B) 105 367 13467. I've just checked the info I got from them - Jane C Dancey & 3 others also seem to be buried there.
may be this just stays a mystery!
Roz

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Re: Mt. Jerome Cemetery Graves
« Reply #136 on: Sunday 13 July 14 04:32 BST (UK) »
Hope this topic is still open.
I'm trying to identify someone from their mention on a gravestone photo at Mt. Jerome.
Grave 897 contains Mosley, Sweny and a Mary Cooke.
The last-named died 14 March 1924 (no burial date).
I wonder if there are any more details in the cemetery records.
The date could be wrong, as I had no luck when I tried to get her Death Cert.
What should I do ?
Ken

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« Reply #137 on: Sunday 13 July 14 05:29 BST (UK) »
I would suggest you telephone the cemetery first
They should hopefully at the least know Mary's age and date of death
link to headstone

Presume these are all the deaths checked

If the phone call is not successful. I will call in for you during the week

Edited
Had another thought on this
Check out page 55 of the Wills from 1924 for details on Mary

grave details for Lydia Barbara Rawson and Mary Rawson

1911 census for Rawsons at184 Rathgar Road

1901 census
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Mt. Jerome Cemetery Graves
« Reply #138 on: Sunday 13 July 14 07:00 BST (UK) »
Yes you should get a lot more information from the graveyard office records.  You should also have a bit more   detail on the grave ID number such as a alphabetlic area ref (for a larger section) and also a row number to cross reference and find your plot.  With just the one date, they should be able to pick out the plot and give full details.  You could email them.
Wiffen, Utton, Clark, Spires,  Frisby, Raybould, Charlton, Green, (England)
Flood,  Daly, Doran, Mc Kercher, Gardiner, (Ireland/England)
Reid, Burns  (Ireland)
McGourty, Daly (Ireland/America)


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Re: Mt. Jerome Cemetery Graves
« Reply #139 on: Sunday 13 July 14 08:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for your prompt replies.
I am sure there is no connection to the Rawsons, apart from the first names.
I looked up the Mary Cookes buried at Mt. J. in 1924, but I can't be sure of any of them.
I have sent an email to Mt Jerome to ask for more details
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Five Cooke brothers from England went to Dublin about 1850 and all had families there, but by 1900, all had left Ireland. It seems that Mary was left behind.
Was she a daughter, or perhaps the wife of one of the brothers ?
I hope to find out soon.
Thanks again, I'll keep you up to date.
Ken

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Re: Mt. Jerome Cemetery Graves
« Reply #140 on: Sunday 13 July 14 10:59 BST (UK) »
The Mary COOKE who died on 14 March 1924 I believe may have been the aunt of the RAWSONs who inherited her estate based on the following:

Link to the marriage in 1870 of
Lewis Manseragh RAWSON MD (son of Lewis Manseragh RAWSON)
to Sarah Alice COOKE (daughter of Michael COOKE & [Lydia Sarah JONES from separate source])
witnessed by Mary COOKE and Edward A RAWSON

Lewis Manseragh RAWSON born c1861 d.11 Jun 1878 Baltinglass, Co. Wicklow
Children
  1874 Lydia Barbara RAWSON born Baltinglass, Co. Wicklow
  1878 Mary RAWSON born Baltinglass, Co. Wicklow

Widow Sarah Alice RAWSON nee COOKE m Frederick P FAWCETT
  1886 Dublin South Q3 V2 P523

Link/detail of Birth/Baptism records of children
  1889 Albert Frederick FAWCETT d.28 Aug 1889 aged 8 months
  1890 Arthur Edward  FAWCETT possibly married Dorothy Irene SPENCE in Belfast 1916
  1891 Stanley William FAWCETT d.10 Mar 1891 aged 5 weeks
  1893 Hilda Alice FAWCETT d. 1972 Dublin
Headstone Detail from Photograph #8409
Family listed on the 1901 census at 325 in Rathgar Road (Rathmines, Dublin)
and in 1911 at 184 in Rathgar Road (Rathmines & Rathgar West, Dublin) as previously stated.

Frederick FAWCETT died in 1914 and
(Sarah)Alice FAWCETT died in 1919;
it is possible that the children’s maternal aunt Mary COOKE moved in with them and died there in 1924

I am not sure if any of this helps link Mary to your SWENYs and MOSLEYs though….!

Editted to say; I think I have a connection-
The grave that Lydia and Mary RAWSON are buried in, is that of their maternal aunt
Margaret COOKE who married William ASHLEY in 1868
In the 1901 census Margaret ASHLEY is listed at
10 in Harrington Street (Fitzwilliam, Dublin)
with others including her sister MARY COOKE and her widowed cousin LYDIA MOSLEY!

1867 Marriage of
Lydia SWENY dau of Eugene to Alfred Richard MOSLEY son of William

If Margaret in 1901 described herself as a cousin of Lydia MOSLEY's and a sister to Mary COOKE
logically Mary is also Lydia's Cousin; when Lydia died her estate went to Lydia NICOL nee ASHLEY

Happy hunting!
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Mt. Jerome Cemetery Graves
« Reply #141 on: Sunday 13 July 14 12:50 BST (UK) »
Could be the link between the families

Marraige of Michael COOKE to Lydia Sarah JONES Feb 4 1843 in St. Peter’s CoI Dublin
Unfortunately their parents are not listed
These are the parents of, at least,
Sarah Alice who married (1) RAWSON and (2) FAWCETT
Margaret who married ASHLEY
Mary unmarried

Lydia Cooke of 10 Harrington Street died in 1880 aged 70
same address as 1901 census for ASHLEY family

In 1809 Eugene SWENY married Lydia JONES in St. Peter’s CoI Dublin
They had a son Eugene in 1818
Who could be the father of Lydia who married MOSLEY
more logically than a daughter of the elder Eugene
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Mt. Jerome Cemetery Graves
« Reply #142 on: Monday 14 July 14 04:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks once again. It is now obvious that Mary Cooke buried in Grave 897 is not directly related.
She is, as you say, the cousin of Lydia Mosley,nee Sweny. Her age, 79 years, matches the one in the Index, Group Reg. No.2677664.
Lydia must be a cousin on her mother's side, as there is no connection to any of the names you mention on the Sweny side.
Eugene Sweny married Lydia, daughter of John Jones of Jervis St. Dublin and Oldtown Co. Kildare in 1809 (according to pedigrees from Dublin Office of Arms & London Geneal. Society). They were Lydia Mosley's parents. (Eugene jnr. 1818, died in infancy)
I would guess that Lydia Sarah, who married Michael Cooke, was a granddaughter of the said John
Jones.
I'm still trying to digest everything, and hope we'll be able to shed more light on this branch of the family.

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Re: Mt. Jerome Cemetery Graves
« Reply #143 on: Monday 14 July 14 12:18 BST (UK) »
As I said happy hunting! It all adds to the bigger picture
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder