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Re: ryalls/hurn/ Davis
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 06 September 11 10:24 BST (UK) »
I recently found out about a photo which looks to feature  Royles' and Loveridges. I'm contacting the owner to see if I can get a copy/scan.

I remember reading somewhere that someone had been passed notes from the guy in Derby relating to Royal hearn/heron and the name change of herons to royals/royles/ryals. Any info on dates etc on royal would be much appreciated.

I recall reading somewhere according to the heron's that royal had 'gone to wales'. which I guess fits into where we ended up around the gloucester area.

I also read somewhere that some ryalls emigrated with stanleys and coopers to america. anyone heard of this and know who exactly of the ryals that went? dates ? 1800s?

There is a ryals town in texas and Texas has 20,000 romanichals.

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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 20 September 11 15:13 BST (UK) »
hi
      would love to see that photo if u ever get a copy,
               i also have heard from somewhere that the royals/ryall, came from the hearns/herons somewhere back but no more than that. 
             Matilda
travellers: Penfold, Holland, Orchard, Loveridge, saunders, James, Davis<br />Somerset/devon: Hawkins, Lane, Perryman, Saffin, Bowden, Warren<br />Yorkshire/Lincolnshire: Webster, Gleadell, Gott, Patrick, Milnes, Beverley

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« Reply #29 on: Thursday 22 September 11 11:43 BST (UK) »
Here ya go!!!


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« Reply #30 on: Friday 23 September 11 13:28 BST (UK) »
What a great photo, any ideas who they are or where and when taken,  have so few photos from hubbys side of the family. i have sent u a message on romany jib, dont know if u got it thanx agian Matilda
travellers: Penfold, Holland, Orchard, Loveridge, saunders, James, Davis<br />Somerset/devon: Hawkins, Lane, Perryman, Saffin, Bowden, Warren<br />Yorkshire/Lincolnshire: Webster, Gleadell, Gott, Patrick, Milnes, Beverley


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« Reply #31 on: Saturday 24 September 11 09:02 BST (UK) »
Hey! I don't know where. On the back of the photo it just says Walter Royles 1926 and the letters F.W.D. I guess that is the initials of the photographer or possibly a location?

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« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 27 September 11 09:12 BST (UK) »
great thanx wonder if its Walter brother of John and his family, lovely to see whoever it is  ;)
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« Reply #33 on: Friday 30 September 11 16:10 BST (UK) »
Here's another Walter Ryles , 1905 said to be between 70 and 80 years old at the time of this photo. This is featured in a recently republished book on Painswick, Sheepscombe, Slad and Edge.



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« Reply #34 on: Monday 03 October 11 10:25 BST (UK) »
what a great photo thanx agian for sharing  ;D
travellers: Penfold, Holland, Orchard, Loveridge, saunders, James, Davis<br />Somerset/devon: Hawkins, Lane, Perryman, Saffin, Bowden, Warren<br />Yorkshire/Lincolnshire: Webster, Gleadell, Gott, Patrick, Milnes, Beverley

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Re: ryalls/hurn/ Davis
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 01 August 13 15:02 BST (UK) »
Oh I should add, with regard to the name change from Ryles to Heron/Hearn - the Heron family were considered a very important romany bloodline, so a marriage into a "lesser" romany family, or even gorjo blood, would often lead to using the maiden name of the wife. Avoidance of the laws of the land would also lead to name changes of course!

This family are notoriously hard to trace - for instance, Amelia, sister of Triante, married Elias Gray. They appear on the 1891 census at Rushall, Staffordshire, as "William Gray and Amelia" - but it IS them.
hello I'm looking into my family tree and I'm the great great granddaughter of Amelia hurn heron and eliace Gray there son Nepolian is my dads grandad it seems they have very unusual names foreign some of them dose anybody know where they originated from ?