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Re: look up in Fasti Ecclesiae for Greenock
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 28 January 07 14:41 GMT (UK) »
JJ THANKS

I did not have Clement Moscrip(t)s birth and cannot believe I missed it.I have his death and was working out his birth from that,same thing I suppose but nice to have the exact date.    Fiona













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Re: look up in Fasti Ecclesiae for Greenock
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 28 January 07 14:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Alistair

Thanks for the info and help,this religious stuff is above me but Im learning.I tried the Free Church to no avail on the website.Where did you find the below info I couldnt find it on the website you sent,it looks interesting. 

However, it seems incomplete and I wonder if technically its the Free church one you need for Clement. Small tries quite hard to play him down as a radical that tried hard, got sick and moved on in the direction of Pollokshaws where he quietly faded out.

But then, Andrew McCallum's history of Pollokshaws (Pollokshaws : Village & Burgh : 1600-1912) at pages 84-85 reveals a lot more more, including that Clement's selection as minister at Pollokshaws was strongly opposed (though obviously he won) and that this helped split the church again. No genealogical data in it, but it must be good to have such interesting ancestors and this must be worth another, more insistent, trip to the Mitchell...

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Re: look up in Fasti Ecclesiae for Greenock
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 28 January 07 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Mention of your Rev C. Moscrip...Halfway down the pdf, page 10...communion tokens...excerpt"...(Obv. REV. C. MOSCRIP'S| CHURCH,| POLLOK-. SHAWS. | 1842.| ....)

http://ads.ahds.ac.uk/catalogue/adsdata/PSAS_2002/pdf/vol_084/84_038_056.pdf

Then look at all the wonderful communion token graphics at the bottom of the page!...J.J.
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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 28 January 07 18:05 GMT (UK) »
Did some of the offspring move here, also?..as look who officiated in many Jersey funerals & weddings! ...U.S.A.....a Rev. Moscrip...J.J.
http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljersey/obits/ObituariesA1.htm


and...here in Iowa...
In 1879 Rev. C.H. MOSCRIP is found settled at KEOKUK
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ialee/data/baptist.htm

reading on he end up in Jerseyville, so is same as above mentioned...

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~donnlibr/data/baptist.htm
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Re: look up in Fasti Ecclesiae for Greenock
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 28 January 07 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Oh, I see you are new to the site, Dahlboy...WELCOME to Rootschat!  J.J.


Fiona do you have this on Andrew's George?
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Re: look up in Fasti Ecclesiae for Greenock
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 28 January 07 19:49 GMT (UK) »
JJ Thanks for the info,I had previously seen Rev C Moscrip Pollokshaws.I checked the website you sent re Jersey obits with Rev Moscrip,not sure who he is though.Yes at least one Moscrip(Andrew dob1808)went to America,Andrews son George became Honorable George Moscrip in Bradford Pennsylvania,I have plenty info on them so am now trying for plenty info on Clement Moscrip.   Fiona

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Re: look up in Fasti Ecclesiae for Greenock
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 28 January 07 20:05 GMT (UK) »
JJ just noticed the other part of your message and yes I have it from TRI COUNTY and isnt it great so many records recorded hopefully the same for Clement as he is a Minister.   Fiona

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Re: look up in Fasti Ecclesiae for Greenock
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 28 January 07 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Alistair

Thanks for the info and help,this religious stuff is above me but Im learning.I tried the Free Church to no avail on the website.Where did you find the below info I couldnt find it on the website you sent,it looks interesting. 

However, it seems incomplete and I wonder if technically its the Free church one you need for Clement. Small tries quite hard to play him down as a radical that tried hard, got sick and moved on in the direction of Pollokshaws where he quietly faded out.

But then, Andrew McCallum's history of Pollokshaws (Pollokshaws : Village & Burgh : 1600-1912) at pages 84-85 reveals a lot more more, including that Clement's selection as minister at Pollokshaws was strongly opposed (though obviously he won) and that this helped split the church again. No genealogical data in it, but it must be good to have such interesting ancestors and this must be worth another, more insistent, trip to the Mitchell...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruption_of_1843

This entry in Wikipedia will help to throw some light upon the general  background of your relatives when they took their places in the Church and the secession of the congregations.

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Re: look up in Fasti Ecclesiae for Greenock
« Reply #26 on: Monday 29 January 07 13:27 GMT (UK) »
The church going folk of Pollokshaws appear to have been quite a fractious lot and first split up in 1799.
The book "Villages of Glasgow" refers to another event just prior to 1847 where the congregation split over the choice of minister with the congregation forming two seperate churches.... although it does not mention your ancestor by name it does tie in with the information you had.