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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #99 on: Saturday 29 August 09 19:21 BST (UK) »
Bridget and others
Thanks for last 3 which for some  reason did not not show on my you've got mail . I've no wish to ignore correspondents  but have only a limited knowledge of computers so some kind person please help.
I'm a Dubliner by birth and walked around Capel Street and Parnell Street in the 60s but can only claim a general knowledge of the area. I send an apology to all who think that I'm pushy as regards precision as to streets and numbers but when I restarted this query my sole aim was to help to identify the position of Bridget's photo.
Dudley W I think the wooden pillars and scrolls were moveable and further are quite common. A house I owned in London previously owned by a super builder  had similar around the front windows. Further, I think I have a book which I identifies the style of moulding.
I searched for Lawlors in my Irish Times work 1859-1901, found nothing in Little Britain Street or Jervis Lane but found the following in Stafford Street.    On P.7 in an advert on 27th April 1871 - Mrs Lawlor.  I think that it is too early for the original photo (which is about 1900-1910 in my opinion) but may be worth keeping in reserve.
Bridget,if I may say so as the originator of the photo would you not write down in 2 separate lists the pro and cons for linking the original photo with the new ones using all all the points raised  by the various correspondents.

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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #100 on: Saturday 29 August 09 20:33 BST (UK) »
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Just for clarity - i believe the lawlor shop to be the one with roller shutters and brickwork above with the down pipe & grates on the path - not the part rendered.

Bigby over on Dublin forums has said he will return there to photo it when the roller are up and i will ask him to photo the detailing over the door. 

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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #101 on: Saturday 29 August 09 21:34 BST (UK) »
All
Just for clarity - i believe the lawlor shop to be the one with roller shutters and brickwork above with the down pipe & grates on the path - not the part rendered.

Bigby over on Dublin forums has said he will return there to photo it when the roller are up and i will ask him to photo the detailing over the door. 

Marc

But the whole of the top of the building would have to have been rebuilt.

The discrepancy between the one row and three rows of bricks between the flashing and the upper window sills could be a difference in where the flashing was bonded into the building but on the original picture there are at least seven rows of bricks above the window lintel bricks whereas in the modern pictures there are only four before the next storey window sills.

The panels beneath the shop windows are also higher on the right, if anything, whereas the original building shows a lower panel on the right of the picture.

Aerial map views show shops of a similar age appear to still exist all down one side of Capel Street.  However many other small street around there have been completely rebuilt during in the twentieth century.
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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #102 on: Saturday 29 August 09 22:10 BST (UK) »
Sorry for the confusion - i think the addition of the new photo is confusing!
I am referring to the shop to the right of the rendered building not the pile of rubble...
which, on that point, Dublin council should be ashamed of themselves - Most expensive city in Europe and they have buildings in this state of repair.  It looks as though it might fall on people passing by!
It pains me to say, but i would have to say that Dublin is singularly the least attractive capital city in Europe.  I recently returned home for three weeks and i just felt that the whole placed was desperate in need or restoration not demolition.  Very sad

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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #103 on: Saturday 29 August 09 22:14 BST (UK) »
Sorry for the confusion - i think the addition of the new photo is confusing!
I am referring to the shop to the right of the rendered building not the pile of rubble...

Me too, there are three storeys with windows.

The picture posted by Bridget shows far more rows of bricks above the second storey windows than exist in the modern building.
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