Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???

[Quaxer]

Bridget
Thanks for yours  First one to hand Thoms 1951 shows:
     No.108 Capel Street         Brereton      Pawn Broker
      No. 60  Capel Street         Timoney      Chemist

Back to your old photo shown in No,68 There is a black line 1 inch from the top inclined slightly inclined to the left ,it blacks out the top of the photo partly and was either taken through a partly open window or doorway or else that has something to do with the old photo process.

Please supply a stret and no. for this photo as I do not have an intimate knowledge of each turning there.

Regards    Quaxer

[DudleyWinchurch]

Looked at the latest photo and had to laugh.

I remembered being there in January and taking photos as Little Britain Street is now all rebuilt so I guessed Great Britain Street (now Parnell Street) would be the closest I would get to a picture of what the shops in Little Britain Street (where my gran's family lived) used to look like.

I think the one in the original picture is the next shop along in the other direction.

Will now try to attcah one of my pics.  The brickwork upstairs has changed but maybe reinforced to stop it falling down completely as so much of it has already gone.  But the difference in the front panels is there, the scrolls etc. and the window styles.

What does everyone think?

[DudleyWinchurch]

oops,

can't be that one either as just spotted that there is an extra door there.

Was the original one perhaps on Little Britain Street?, all redeveloped now (sometime in the 1960s).

[Oaks and Acorns]

... If you stand facing the corner you can see Bretons (sp) Pawnshop and Capel St. library. Is that correct! ...

And if you turn right you are heading up Bolton Street?

Brereton's was still there in the early 70's.

Dara.

[Quaxer]

Bridget

Ithink the modern photo shown by Dudley W is of the same premises  as on Marc's photo
Will Dudley W please state the precise location on Parnell Street  . Is that either Moore Lane or Jervis Lane immediately to the left of the lamp standard? Will all who display photos when possible indicate exactly what they show and their origins.
Will every body please remember that we must still show the link between the original one in Bridget's possession and the new ones shown by Marc and Dudley,


Regards       Quaxer

[magicaled]

Bridget,
             It is a pleasure to help if I can.
                                                               ed

[DudleyWinchurch]

Bridget

Ithink the modern photo shown by Dudley W is of the same premises  as on Marc's photo
Will Dudley W please state the precise location on Parnell Street  . Is that either Moore Lane or Jervis Lane immediately to the left of the lamp standard? Will all who display photos when possible indicate exactly what they show and their origins.
Will every body please remember that we must still show the link between the original one in Bridget's possession and the new ones shown by Marc and Dudley,

Regards       Quaxer

Sorry Quaxer,

I thought somone had already clearly identified the previous photo as looking towards the junction between Parnell Street and Capel Street.  And yes, mine is a view looking the other way across the same building to the end of the block to show the buildings to the other side of it.

Necessary comparisons with the first picture are the lines where the tops of the shop front line up, whether they have those small scroll pillars towards the top of the window or long squared off pillars (these seem to be original decorative features of the architecture but possibly superficial and removable), comparative heights of the panels beneeath the window, and the one that I blatantly missed there - whether the door to the upper floors is to the left or right of the shop windows.

I don't yet know Dublin well, but from a map I would identify the little lane next to the antique shop as the top of Wolfe Tone Street.  We're the other end of the Street from Moore Street.

I tried to take some photos of the architecture of the older buildings in Moore Street too and would suggest that the distance between the top of the shop windows and the bottom of the next floor windows is a little closer there, more like the earlier picture, but many parts of a number of the original buildings have already been rebuilt at least once so there are few reallly original shop fronts there.  I had been disappointed to hear that most of the famous historical "terrace" would go in the redevelopment but it was clear from viewing it that parts of it were not original anyway.

[Bridget x]

Dara, Yes, that’s correct, if you turn right you are going towards Bolton St. (Good old Brereton’s)

Quaxer, Parnell St. is a very long street running from Capel St to as far as Summer Hill.  The shops shown by both Marc and D. W. (same shops, different angles) are only four shops from the corner of Capel St. so, the very end or the very beginning of Parnell St depending what way you look at it!  Regarding your question on post no 68. The whole purpose of this thread is to identify where the shop was, I have no idea. The chemist (on the corner in new photos) had two windows, one in Parnell St and one in Capel St. I see by your post the address was 60 Capel St. I wish it had been the other way around as that would have given us the number for the mystery shop either 57 or 63.
I wonder if you could have a look at this. Just a thought. If my memory serves me right next door to Timothy’s chemist on the Parnell St side was a newsagent/sweet shop named Finlaters. (sp)  Could you find a listing and number for that and we could perhaps work back three shops and have the name of the mystery shop?  Thank you.

D.W. I knew little Brittan St well. My mother’s sister lived there. Again I passed through it every day going to school. I seem to recall there were only about two shops there but I can find out that for sure as my cousin now in his 70s was born and brought up there.
The corner of your photo shown the single storied grey building was once a little place named “The Nip Inn” where one could buy the most delicious soup with a great chunk of bread! It was very popular with men coming from the local beamish! The laneway where it stands was Jervis Lane. The street after that was Wolfe Tone St, once names Stafford St where my G. Grandparents lived. It will give you an idea of how close they were to the shops pictured.   Bridget

[DudleyWinchurch]

Hi Bridget,

I think we've talked before about Little Britain Street.  My gran's family moved there sometime between 1911 and 1917, after her father had died, and stayed until about the 1960s when the street was rebuilt.

It was lovely to get a short visit there in January and we got my Gran's birth certificate from the Research rooms and then found the house in Moore Street where she was born.

Thanks to a cousin, I've just got the 1901 census and now find that her father seems to have had another family before he married my Great-grandmother, so lots more to research.

I'd love to know any details you can find out about Little Britain Street, especially the shops, and see any old photos, if you have any.

best wishes,
Sheila

[added: just checked on multimap and yes, that is Upper Jervis Lane on that map - it doesn't appear at all on the tourist map that I was using so I thought that the first Street going from Capel Street must be  Wolfe Tone Street]