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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #54 on: Monday 01 June 09 21:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Sarah, Thank you for your message. I regret to say I never did find out where the shop was.  I think it will always be an unsolved mystery. I hope you have better luck finding your shoe shop. I have not come across the name Delaney during my research.  Bridget
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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #55 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 18:46 BST (UK) »
Hello again,

Have you found a way to look at the 1901 census?  How do you find out about Irish people emigrating to another country?  For example, I believe that my grandmother born and brought up in Ireland, emigrated to Argentina about 1921 or 1922.  She came back.  I do not know how to find out about such a process.

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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #56 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 23:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Sarah, I managed to view the 1901 census when I was in Dublin some years ago. The records were housed in Bishop St. I think they are to be made public soon. I'm sure one of the wonderful experts on this board will step in and advise you on immigrating listings as I have never gone down that road. Regards,  Bridget
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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 00:59 BST (UK) »
ridget
I hope you are still seeking information about this photo
The property was in poor shape-note the brickwork with damaged facing ,the downspout but the paving outside appears to be in order. This was a typical Dublin shop with 2 floors accomodation above and side private hall door entrance. I think it must have been a side street shop as he did not have to rely upon the passing trade and the condition (e.g. downspout) would not have escaped the eye of Dublin Corporation. There are accounts of shopkeepers in Capel Street being fined for not sweeping their frontages.
There is a great deal of writing on the photo or else someone has used it as a writing pad - e.g. on the front pavementand there is a roundel like a postage stamp frank by the private hall door. Magnify these using a loup and come back. It is too good to chuck aside.

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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 05:55 BST (UK) »
Another avenue of research would be to see if there are any archived records of the Wood Milne company in the UK, to see if they list their Dublin stockists anywhere.

Alternatively, an email to the Irish Architectural Archive might be able to positively narrow down the street from the window design etc..
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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 14:06 BST (UK) »
Bridget

forgive me if you already found this, dont think for a minute that you didn't but just in case.

1911 census

William Lawlor Bootmaker age 64 born Co Kilkenny
Mary Lawlor age 54 born Co Wicklow

address 12.5 Stafford Street North Dublin.

I was up there a few days ago..wishing I had looked before I went and could have taken pictures for you.  They are mostly still very old buildings and have managed to escape rejuvantion of Dublin City.

As I said, you probably have this information, but I am glad you finally found out where the shop was.

Carol
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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 16:23 BST (UK) »
Bridget

Carol believes that the photo relates to 12 Stafford Street. There is no entry in Slaters 1894, my source work for the Irish Times 1859 1901 has only one entry which has no relevance and Thoms 1911 shows the premises as being in tenements.

If you have the time will you examine the photo as I requested yesterday. Use a square search technique and miss nothing,

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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #61 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 23:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Carol, I hope you are well. Yes, I do have that information from the 1911 census on William and Mary Lawlor but nevertheless thank you so much for looking that up. I still have not found the shoemakers shop and, to be honest had given up on it. The latest inquiry from Quaxer has reawakened my interest so, here we go again!! Lol

Trish, As ever, such sound advice! I shall follow up your suggestion regarding getting in touch with Irish Architectural Archive.  Looking at the photo (yet again) I am drawn to the Wood Milne advert in the window for “Revolving heels” The mind bobbles!   Thank you.

Hello Quaxer,   I have to say, “Not Guilty” regarding any scribbles on this very old photo. It is as I found it in my late mum’s belongings. Sadly, I am no expert on computers and am not familiar with your suggestion of magnifying with a “loup” I have used the magnifier on Photoshop and, even then can’t make out or see any writing that is, apart from that in the adverts in the window. This photo has become a long running serial giving us a few laughs along the way.  If you have read the thread from the start you will have read how amazed I was when a Rootschat member pointed out the face in the window. I still feel it would not have been far from their tenement home in Stafford St. So, perhaps somewhere in Gt. Britain, Mary, or Capel St. Oh dear, will I ever find the answer?  Many thanks’.
Bridget
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Re: Would you care to solve a Dublin mystery???
« Reply #62 on: Tuesday 25 August 09 23:55 BST (UK) »

Sadly, I am no expert on computers and am not familiar with your suggestion of magnifying with a “loup”


Hi Bridget,

I believe this is a North American term for what we would call a magnifying glass. Usually used to decribe one with very high level of magnification as used by, for example, a jeweller.

With regard to the term 'square search technique' I have to admit I am totally lost. Perhaps Quaxer might enlighten us.

Dara.