So what would you do?

[Radcliff]

Lost and confused , how do you know if the names are wrong , or the dates, have you actualy researched this woman to see what happened to her,
Sorry just trying to help,

[lostnconfused]

Lost and confused , how do you know if the names are wrong , or the dates, have you actualy researched this woman to see what happened to her,
Sorry just trying to help,

I appreciate the help I really do.

My Nana provided dates etc to her own kids that do not match any records on the normal BDM searches. The same facts are not even matched on her marriage cert.

The info on her death cert was provided by her daughter (my aunt) from the original info she was given so that is a cyclical search that leads nowhere.

Its something we have had on the back burner for a while but this re-ignited thread has set  us off again ;-)

[MargP]

Hi

Have you check for variants of Annie ie Ann, Anne or Hannah

Margp

[Anthony Morris]

What made me type mum's name in the search box and come back here again I will never know but here I am
It was a summers day mum was sat in the green chair by the fireplace near the cupboards (usually dad sat here) it was sunny and the front door was open. She was knitting and I was playing on the old green hearth rug. How and why I asked the question I will never truly remember but I have this feeling it was something to do with her sister that had passed between mum and dad and being a kid I asked the question. She told me not to ask again and as a child I did as I was told. The reason it sticks in my mind is that the answer itself put an end. Sure I was curious and I have never stopped being. Sure I want to know but I told her I wouldnt enquire again and I aint going to heaven (I hope) and finding mum waiting there to give me a rollocking......no chance.
Bearing in mind all the brothers and sisters dad had it has always seemed more than odd that no one knows NOTHING......they must have done and we have hit a very well constructed brick wall.
Lastly losing Len tore me up more than you would think. We were never really close I admit that but he was always there.then suddenly he was gone. The family has never been close and that is all our faults.....love you all

[aggiebagwash]

I'm beginning to think that her surname wasn't Barnes. I looked for her on the 1939 register and it should show her name as Ann/Annie Barnes and then when she married written between Annie and Barnes in a different ink and handwriting it should say Morris and there's no record in the whole country for those two names. Maybe someone else could check this out as I may have missed something.

I wonder if she'd been married before and Barnes wasn't her maiden name. Could you scan her marriage certificate so we can look for some clues?

Margaret

[lancsann]

I wonder if the actual scenario is similar to one I have in my tree.

This lady was born in 1918 and registered under her birth mothers name. She was then adopted, privately as formal adoption did not exist, and was thereafter known by her adopted parents name and it is her adopted father named on her marriage certificate as her father. We were lucky in that her date of birth was correct and she was registered with a middle name of her adopted parents and there was an agreement drawn up between them and her birth mother so we could trace the name. Otherwise we would never have known the name she was registered as at birth.

[ThrelfallYorky]

Is there perhaps any significance in the fact that the marriage took place in wartime?
A relative of mine was in Manchester, on "War Work" during the war, although she had no links there, one of many. I recall her telling me of how, when one of "the bunch" was getting married, and, like her, they usually came from far away, they all would rally round to provide things, and most attended the wedding, as usually the bride's family couldn't make it. I believe my relative's speciality was providing the "honeymoon suitcase"- she said it'd been on about 20 honeymoons by the time it went on her own, late in the War.
If Annie was not originally from Manchester area, but had merely been working there, then perhaps that could have accounted for a lack of family?
Don't give up - someday you'll get there, I'm sure.

[ThrelfallYorky]

Just for the record, have you eliminated:
Ann Barnes born 22nd July 1912 Walkden, to John James Barnes (Collier) and Elizabeth?

Ann Barnes born 10th Nov 1911 Failsworth to James Earl Barnes and Gertrude (Longshaw)

Ann Barnes born 1911 Lancs to James Barnes and Margaret (Brailsford)
                                                                     ?