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Re: Are you sitting comfortably ? then I'll begin !!
« Reply #261 on: Thursday 18 January 07 15:26 GMT (UK) »
I've got Nora May Dobell's will on one-hour order (just squeaked in before the 3pm deadline!) so will go out into the gale to collect it at 4pm.

Anna :)
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« Reply #262 on: Thursday 18 January 07 15:29 GMT (UK) »
I've got Nora May Dobell's will on one-hour order (just squeaked in before the 3pm deadline!) so will go out into the gale to collect it at 4pm.

Anna :)

Anna !

Thank you ! Please don't get blown away !!  :P

Annie  :) :) :) :)
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« Reply #263 on: Thursday 18 January 07 15:37 GMT (UK) »



   Anna.... Thank you again

  I have just caught up today. So are we now concentrating on Nora...and I cannot remember have we done possible birth's

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Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
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 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
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« Reply #264 on: Thursday 18 January 07 16:53 GMT (UK) »
Right then.  I have Nora May Dobell's will in my sticky paw.

Sole executor was Barclays Bank Trust Company of 54 Lombard St, City of London.

Nora died 8 Dec 1981 and lived at 5 St Peter's Close, Heswall, Wirral, Merseyside. Will was made on 19 Jan 1978.

Unfortunately there is no sign of any children of hers.  She left lots of bequests - some to cousins with surname Crease, others to the vicar, the housekeeper, the gardener and sundry other individuals.   Most of the residue she left to a brother-in-law (husband's brother) and his children.

Witnesses seem to be staff at Barclays Bank Trust Company.

As before, copies on request by pm or (for those who already have my address) e-mail.

Anna
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Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
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London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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« Reply #265 on: Thursday 18 January 07 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Annie:

It has been very satisfying to see the help that you and the group at RootsChat have given to Michel.  He is dedicated to finding the relatives, if they exist, of Lt. Stead and returning the ID bracelet medallion.  I know something of his passion for this quest.  His dream was to reunite the tag with the family.

One needs only a brief visit to Flanders to get a strong measure of the sacrifice buried in those fields.  The reason for my journey there in December of 2005 was to find the grave of my great uncle and accompany my father to same. I did not realize as I set out on that journey that my father and I would not only find and honor the grave of William Henry Jeffcott, but we would cross the bridge of friendship with Michel. 

Michel, as the town administrator and the only English speaker in the city offices of Fleurbaix, greeted my father and me as friends and helped us find information about the situation of our relative in the days before his all-too-young end in 1915. 

We believe my great uncle was the last of the Jeffcott line. 

On her deathbed in 1999 at age 100, my grandmother Henrietta (Jeffcott) Murray, expressed her greatest regret in life as the inability of anyone from our family to find and visit the final resting place of her dear brother, Willy.  All that she had to go on for over 80 years were some last letters from the front and a wartime postal card from an officer describing the general locale of his burial site.  But, of course, the details of our search and the mysteries that remain are not the subject of this effort.

Michel shared with us the metal tag which he had found years before.  My dad, a former Royal Navy Frogman (WWII) and an immigrant to America in 1947, helped with some deciphering of the inscription (C of E for Church of England and NOT Corps of Engineers) and I offered the suggestion that the tag was lost by a survivor of the conflict.  Happily, in so much as our concern for Lt. Stead, this was found to be true as his service record proves.  Experts from the Great War Forum were of much assistance in this determination.  But, until now, Michel has been unable to add much to his search for survivors of the veteran, Lt. Stead.

So, to answer your question directly, I am very much impressed with the information you and the team are finding.  But I am much more heartened by the giving spirit and the demonstration of love for humanity by your group of 21st century researchers in England on behalf of a good man  in France seeking peaceful reconciliation with the survivors of a soldier who spent the early years of his manhood fighting a war in that Frenchman’s backyard nearly a century ago.

And as the father of Lt. Andrew David Murray, US Army Corps of Engineers, and as one who stands for peace in this increasingly violent world, I say, what a beautiful world it is!  It is more beautiful today because of all of you!

Thank you!


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« Reply #266 on: Thursday 18 January 07 19:39 GMT (UK) »


Hi Andrew !

I'm very glad that you replied ! and I also thank you for your moving post !

It's hard to put into words what happens here ..... I know for myself I start with the thrill of the chase - but then  the amazing information is found  ..... and although the information is serious - we can have fun and a giggle with it too .... and I just seem to take off from there  ......... people from all walks of life and from all over the world come together and spend time and give freely of their knowledge and it turns into a wonderous thing !

I'm glad Michel chose us to help him and I just hope that we can bring his hopes to fruition !!

Thanks again !

Annie  :)
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« Reply #267 on: Thursday 18 January 07 20:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andrew,

Well I just had a little whinge reading what you said there, anybody got any tissues handy?

Welcome to Rootschat and I hope we manage to get a good result after all our chasing about.  I can only agree with the sentiments Annie has said, we do try our best to do a good bit of research, but we also manage to have a bit of fun along the way.

You yourselves also produced the excellent results which started us off on our trail.

Best wishes to you and your family.

Anna, once again thanks so much for running around to get the Will, another good result.  I hoep you aren't too windblown, I know I had a horrendous journey home taking 2 1/4 hours for a usual 3/4 hour trip with motorways closed down along the way.

I would appreciate a copy of the Will, you have my email address already.

I'm wondering by the time we have finished with this search that I may be able to place copies of the documents on the website for everybody to see, together with the tree and other information we have found as these dates seem to be such that the named persons may no longer be around.  We can have a review later and then maybe post them for a certain length of time before the space reverts back to my own research.

Annie, do we have enough clues from Nora May Dobell that we don't need to follow up the other angle.  We need to keep in mind - trying to be as specific as possible without naming names, I believe the first witness on Elizabeth's will was named in a Historic Electoral Roll at the same address as was used when she was witness.  This is the person who, if still living, may only be found by personal visit.

If it's down to me I wouldn't be able to go until sometime on Sunday anyway, so a consensus of opinion before then would be good.

No response as yet from the Gateacre Society.

Mary
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« Reply #268 on: Thursday 18 January 07 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Hmmm something that's a little puzzling here ....

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Norah Joyce Crease born 27 Sep 1914 died Nov 2003 aged 89  Liverpool

Birth of Nora J Crease December qtr 1914 ROMFORD mother's name PAYNE oooops!

I hope I wasn't the only one making the assumption that she was the daughter of Robert Miller Crease and Constance Pooley, especially since Historical Electoral Rolls had her living in the same house as a Constance J Crease in Liverpool, I now believe this would have been the Aigburth area of Liverpool.

So this Constance J Crease may not be the same one as the Constance E Pooley who married Robert Miller Crease.
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« Reply #269 on: Thursday 18 January 07 21:09 GMT (UK) »
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