Why don't I have any convicts?

[pmhermann]

Hin Jenn

They arrived at Port Jackson NSW, then moved to the Gloucester region, which is about 3 hours north of Sydney

Paul

[meganbutel]

Children - Frederick b c1832 London (no birth record yet); Walscourt Ferdinand Walters b 4 Apr 1842 Westminster London (my 3G GF); James b 16 May 1844 chr 9 Jul 1842 Sydney (father Ferd. Walters);
Following Ferdinand's death in July 1848, she married Thomas McEnery in Adelaide 27 Mar 1849;
Kezia died in Melbourne 1895 and is buried in the Melb General Cemetery.

Its a real mystery as to why she would leave such a young child and head off to Australia.  The family story is that the children were left with the Walters family, who placed them in care.
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Just sticking my nose in here...... What is odder is that they have a 10 year gap between children - so are there other children you don't currently have details for or were they somehow physically separated (e.g.. he was away fighting etc??)
Also - she was in Sydney having James - is Ferdinand with her or is he still in England? How did she get to Sydney in the 1840s to have James?
Did you know there is a 1911 death cert for a Frederick Walters (father Ferdinand/ mother's name not given) in NSW?

Also did she marry as Kezia Walters "widow" in the second marriage.
I also found a newpaper reference to your Walscourt Walters - on Trove - he's a trustee for a Wesleyan land sale - so possibly the reason you can't find the marriage is because they were Weslyan /Methodists?
Just a few thoughts....

[jadewing]

re: Dewing

Hi Paul

Elizabeth and Richard Dewing are my ancestors but I have found no confirmation that Mary Anne was their child (I had the same info from Thomas Dewing). She is not mentioned in Richard Dewing's 1853 Will, or his mother Alice's Will in 1831 and nor are her children.

If you can find Mary Anne's death certificate it may have her parent's names or her place of birth, if it was known to whoever registered her death.

Jane Dewing

[jadewing]

Hi Megan

I have contemplated that 10 year gap but have been unable to find any other children.  I have Ferdinand's soldier's record and he did not serve overseas, spent most of the time at Windsor I think. And there is no reference to a wife or children. Ferdinand appears to have remained in England until his death in 1848.

I haven't found how or when Kezia arrived in NSW, only James's birth record. And both Frederick (I think I have his death cert but I'll have to check) and Walscourt came out to Australia.  Kezia married as Walters single widowed so she kinda hedged her bets  .

I hadn't thought about a non conformist marriage so that may be a whole new avenue of research!

Thanks, Jane

[meganbutel]

Well she seems to be a bit of a non-coformist 

It's possible they had children who died - so you could search for deaths as well as /instead of births.

It does seem very odd that she would be on the other side of the world giving birth to a child (but making sure it was baptised??) away from her husband and presumably children.

You don't think she could have possibly committed a crime and been transported? That would seem to be a possible explanation - transportation continued until 1856. It would also give you your longed for convict 
Just a thought!

[ajf25]

Hubby's side has about 30 of the bleeders 
It was exciting to start with and then I got to the stage when I said "not another one!" 
I woke him up at 2 in the morning once (you all know how addictive this family history can be), excited because I'd actually found a branch of his family that had come to Aus of their own free will !!
Still, starting with a number of first fleet, our kids are 9th generation Aussies.
My family all came to Victoria, so far less interesting and as others have noted before on this thread, harder to find information about. 

Cheers
Alison 

[terribrown]

My lot all seemed to have came out to South Australia and that was not a convict state so I can't find one either!!
I have relatives of in-laws that were convicts but I can't rightly claim them (unfortunately).
I do have some murderers and a couple of brother/sister marraiges so i will make do with that.

[ajf25]

I do have some murderers and a couple of brother/sister marraiges so i will make do with that.

What's the old saying - you can choose your friends but not your family?
Brother/sister marriages - to each other or brothers marrying sisters from another family     

Cheers,
Alison 

[sabrina]

My grandmother always said that they came out before they got around to sending them.

Hi Prue  I am sure a few people would like to know how you got the christmas hat on your gentleman photo.