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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 25 November 09 07:01 GMT (UK) »
Goodness, Kezia was not a woman to let the grass grow under her feet!

I assume you have seen the will of Walscourt Ferdinand WALTERS, orchardist, of Alfred Crescent, Fitzroy but late of Kyabram, and owning land in Box Hill.  Died 30 Aug, probate granted 30 Sept 1907. Executrix and only beneficiary is widow Kate Walters of Kyabram.  Will dated 1874.

http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/access/probate.asp

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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 25 November 09 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Judith, we do have a copy of WF's will.  Kezia is certainly a puzzle!

Hi Matt and welcome to Rootschat!  I don't have a lot of information about Captain Fred Dewing but I would be happy to share what I know.  You will need to make a few more posts before I can contact you direct but meanwhile you may be interested in an article I found about his brother Williman Goss Dewing who migrated to Michigan in the US.  http://kvm.kvcc.edu/content/generalinfo/museographies/Museography_IX.pdf Fred is also mentioned briefly.

His parents were Richard Dewing b c1784 North Creake, Norfolk and Elizabeth Goss Herring b 1783 Ringland, Norfolk.  Richard died Mar Q 1852 Ashwicken, Norfolk, and Elizabeth died Mar Q 1874 Norwich, Norfolk.

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DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.

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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #29 on: Friday 27 November 09 04:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the link Jane, very interesting to learn about Fredericks brother in Kalamazoo. I am not sure the Fred that is mentioned in the article is the same as the one who settled at Paraparap, Barwon Downs.
The article places him in New York and then Kalamazoo from 1836-1841, however the Victorian records have him married in Melbourne in 1841 to Cattherine Bond and three children from 1841 to 1843.
Further,from Tasmanian Archives website (passenger search) and The Argus (through NLA website)   there is mention of a Capt. fred Dewing being master of a ship "Tamar" that journeyed regularly from 1836-1839 between Launceston and Sydney, finally at Port Philip in 1839.
I wonder if the Frederick in the US is an older brother. The Victorian BDM has Fred Dewings death in 1859 mentions parents Elizabeth and Richard. Another Dewing, Henry died in 1880 same parents. Do you know of any of their other children?

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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #30 on: Friday 27 November 09 05:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Matt

The Kalamazoo dates may be inaccurate or maybe Fred was there intermittantly between those dates but I'm pretty sure its the same bloke.  William's middle name is Goss, the same as his and Fred's mother.  Goss was their grandmother's (IE Elizabeth Herring's mother's) maiden name.

Fred and Henry Dewing appear to be the only ones who came to Australia and I have details of their descendants and numerous siblings.  I have copies of Henry and Fred's death registrations.  There's also a map I found on line which shows some property in Victoria held by Henry, but I can't find the reference at the moment.

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DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.


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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #31 on: Friday 27 November 09 05:46 GMT (UK) »
Okay, I found the reference  :)  The property is in Murroon, Vic.

see: http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-rm2741-462

DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.

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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #32 on: Monday 30 November 09 06:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jane,

Spot on with the Murroon parish - thats where I live! (although I am not on the Dewings original land. That is currently part of the Callahan family property, who have a detailed family history which include references to the Dewings. Frederick's original "station" is no longer remnant, although I'm told the site of the building is known)
From my research it is clear that Henry & Fred are the only two children to come to Aust. But I have had no luck in placing their arrival in any inward passenger lists. (My feeling is that they arrived in Port Philip via Van Diemens Land)

You might be interested to know there are refernecs to Fred Dewing in a publication "Campfires at the Cross" by Heather LeGriffon, which details a Wesleyan Mission for Aboriginals called Bunting Dale that was established north of Fred Dewings pastoral run "Paraparap" in 1839. Over the years 1839 to 1849 he co-signed letters to then Govenor Latrobe from a group of local settelrs, and donated stock to the mission.

I believe that Henry and family are buried locally at Warncoort cemetry (between Birregurra and Colac), and that Henrys decendants continued to work the Barwon Downs property until sometime after 1925....

I am not sure of the location of Freds grave.

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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #33 on: Monday 30 November 09 07:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Matt

Small world!   ;D  I'll have to see if I can find a copy of Heather Le Griffon's publication as I'd be very interested to read it, espaecially as my day job is in the area of Indigenous heritage  :).

I have details of Henry's burial and will check tonight to see what I have for Fred and Catherine.  Some one is buried in East Geelong but I'll have to check  can't recall who it was.

I have sent you a PM with my email address so if you'd care to contact me direct I can send you what info I have on Fred and Henry and their families.

Cheers, Jane
DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.

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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 17 November 10 04:04 GMT (UK) »
Hello all

Re: Dewing.
My first settlers in Australia were Edward Robins and Mary Ann Dewing, who migrated here in 1836 on board the James Laing.
Mary was born in Norfolk in 1809 and gave her father as Henry. I've never been able to confirm this or take my research any further from here.
I corresponded several years ago with a Thomas Dewing who had Mary Ann in his tree as a sister to Fred and Henry. They were the children of Richard and Elizabeth Goss Herring.

Wondering whether anyone might be able to confirm or add to this?

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Paul

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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 17 November 10 05:28 GMT (UK) »
Hello  there Paul  and welcome to rootschat

Can you tell us  which state of Australia did  they come to ?

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