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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 10 January 07 23:18 GMT (UK) »
hello there everyone

I  feel  quite proud of  the fact  that amongest  my  relations on  my  dear mum's side ( her  maiden name was Bayley) is  the first woman to be elected  to  Qld Parliment and third in Australia   her name was Irene  Longman  nee Bayley, she was  born  in tasmania  from  free stock to a  long  line  of Methodist Ministers! and  reading  about  her on  the web  she had an interesting time of  it  not allowed to  use  the toilets Men Only  couldn't eat with them Men Only  The Electorl Division of Longman  in Qld  is named after her.

http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A100131b.htm


http://arcq.com.au/suffrage/sitting.htm
this link  has a  word or two  and a  photo  which bears an uncanny  resemblance to aunt or three!  for anyone who may be  interested in a bit of history . Two of her brothers were   also   politicians  and  I think ther is a prison named after her as well.  think  haven't  quite goggled  that  out  as  yet! Now isn't that a wonderfull resource!

regards Jenn
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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 10 January 07 23:31 GMT (UK) »
I hope the prison is not Boggo Road, Jenn....that would be an unfortunate name!  ;D ;D ;D

Prue (proudly descended from two convicts and lots of free settlers)

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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 11 January 07 00:57 GMT (UK) »
Most of my lot seem not to have done much that was noteworthy, although I have discovered, via Google, that Parap in Darwin is named after a pastoral property near Moriac, Geelong, which was owned by a 5G Uncle Frederick Dewing in the 1840-50s.

Jane
DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.

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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 11 January 07 01:03 GMT (UK) »
hello  there

I  just "goggled"  and it is  the David Longlads centre  so  that bit of  info  is  not  true

I  have an  Aunt  whose married  name is Boggs  Now  I  wonder about Boggo Road Prue!

regards jenn
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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 11 January 07 05:35 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear Jenn  ;D ;D ;D  Not sure which is worse, Boggs or Boggo! 

Pity about the name of the prison, the David Longland Centre is the one out at Wacol is it not?  The one where the prisoners always used to get out, and some wag put up a sign next to the road saying "Caution:  Prisoners Crossing"  ;D

Jane - interesting about Parap, I was up in Darwin the week after Xmas, and bought a beautiful painting from an Oenpelli-based Aboriginal artist, who had a stall at the Parap markets.  The markets are wonderful, lots of freshly cooked Asian and Islander foods, fresh fruit and veg, and some very nice arts and crafts.

Prue

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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 11 January 07 05:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I only have one convict and he was sent to Tocal in the Hunter Valley and is actually recorded in the history of the Homestead. There and books have been written about him so he must have been a reformed character out here :-).  I told my daughters about him when they were studying Australian history at school last year.  They were not impressed at all....... "you mean we are descended from criminals" and I thought it make the history a bit more real for them haha!!!!!!!

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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 11 January 07 06:36 GMT (UK) »
hello  there Fiona

what  did  he  do  was  he a  "real" criminal?  or some poor sod  trying to  live ?

regards jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 11 January 07 06:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenn
Stole a horse apparently so it was a bit serious..... surprised he didn't hang actually....... however the owner of Tocal was so impressed with him that he was granted the ticket of leave and then employed there so I think he can't have been all bad........ however my 12 & 10 year old daughters didn't think so haha!!!!!!!!

Fiona

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Re: Why don't I have any convicts?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 11 January 07 07:18 GMT (UK) »
I think my sister's kids are more excited about having convict ancestors than if they were royalty!  :D

For a short time I thought we had a wrecker (lured ships to their doom) from the Devon coast in Mum's side of the tree but it proved to be a false connection.  Everyone was very disappointed to have to relinquish Granny Berry!

I lived in the Kimberley for a while Prue, so I know Parap markets well. Pity I didn't know about the family connection at the time.

Jane
DBY:  Walters. DUR: Dorman, Gowland. DVN:  Berry, Gent, Norman, Reed, Spurrell, Watts.  ESX:  Adams.  NBL:  Fenwick,  Jobson.  NFK:  Dewing, Goss, Herring.  SAL:  Bailey, Ball.  SRY:  Wicks.  SSX:  Baker, French, Pelling/Young, Parlett, Paine.  STS:  Bailey, Hanson, Penn, Radford.  YKS:  Dewing.  NI Co Armagh: Sergeant, Bradford. Wales: Williams, Owens.