1841 census look up

[zowster]

could someone look for james tribe born about 1825 epsom surrey on the 1841 census i am hoping he is with his parents and could you see if he has a wife in 1851 and what her name is please he should be in epsom i know he is there on later census with son william henry but he is widowed any help would be appreciated

[billybob]

if this is him

Tooting Graveney Surrey
Thomas Tribe 48 Sawyer? N
Elizabeth Tribe 55              N
James Tribe   17  Ag Lab   Y
Sarah Tribe   12                Y
Sarah Tribe 84                  N

1851 Tooting Graveney Surrey

Thomas Tribe Head M 58 Sawyer Hampshire Street
Elizabeth   "  Wife M 65               Hampshire Portsea
Thomas  "  Son U 30  Bricklayers Labourer  Surrey Epsom
James   "  Son   U 27     do             Surrey Epsom

[zowster]

thanks for that your help is appreciated

[Valda]

Are you certain you have the right father for William Henry Tribe?

1871 census RG10 720 folio 97
39 Salvador? Tooting Graveney  Surrey   
James Tribe  46  Epsom, Surrey,  Head Widow House painter journeyman
Sarah Tribe  41  Tooting, Surrey, Sister Unmarried
William J Tribe  1862  Tooting, Surrey,  Son 

Tooting registers in Wandsworth registration district.

Births Sep 1861 
TRIBE  William James     Wandsworth  1d 444

Births Sep 1862   
TRIBE  William Henry     Epsom  2a 9

This census entry seems much more likely for William Henry in 1871.

1871 census RG10 799 folio 30
7 Respect? Cottage East Street Epsom  Surrey   
John Tribe 53  Ludgershall, Sussex, Head Married Smith
Martha Tribe  59 Lodsworth, Sussex,  Wife Married
Mary Ann Hoare 24  Frensham, Surrey,  Daughter Widow Laundress
Rosetta Tribe 17  Epsom, Surrey,  Daughter Unmarried   
William Tribe  8  Epsom, Surrey, Grandson 
Horace Hoare  3  Epsom, Surrey, Grandson 
plus 1 lodger

There are other children with the family in 1861 so you will need to obtain William Henry's birth certificate to find out which one of John and Martha's older children was actually William's parent if the later censuses don't give you any further clues.

Regards

Valda

[Valda]

1861 census RG9 419 folio 143
Common Epsom Surrey
John Tribe  43 Lurgashall, Sussex, Head Married Whitesmith Journeyman
Martha Tribe  49  Midhurst, Sussex,  Wife Married
Alfred Tribe 15 Fetcham, Surrey,  Son  Groom
Mary Ann Tribe 14 Fetcham, Surrey, Daughter 
Albert Tribe 11  Fetcham, Surrey,  Son     
Edward Tribe  9  Lodsworth, Sussex, Son   
Rosetta Tribe  7 Epsom, Surrey,  Daughter
John Tribe  17  Epsom, Surrey, Son  Whitesmith journeyman 

1851 census HO107 1592 folio 366
Common Epsom  Surrey   
John Tribe 33 Lugarshall, Sussex,  Head Married Smith Journeyman
Marth Tribe  39  Lodsworth, Sussex,  Wife Married
Timothy Tribe 11  Lugershall, Sussex,  Son 
John Tribe 7 Frensham, Surrey, Son     
Alfred Tribe 6  Frensham, Surrey,  Son   
Mary Ann Tribe 4 Frensham, Surrey,  Daughter 
Albert Tribe 1  Lodsworth, Sussex, Son   

Regards

Valda

[Valda]

1841 census HO107 1094/6 folio 13 page 19
Lurgashall  Sussex
John Tribe 20  born Sussex  Smith
Martha Tribe 25  born Sussex
William Tribe 3  born Sussex
Timothy Tribe 1  born Sussex

(adult ages - those over 15 rounded down to the nearest 5 on the 1841 census)

Their marriage was in the first quarter of the start of civil registration

Marriages Sep 1837   
RAPSON  Martha     Midhurst  7 405   
TRIBE  John     Midhurst  7 405

JOHN TRIBE 
MARTHA RAPSON 
Marriage:  23 SEP 1837   Lurgashall, Sussex

You need to obtain their fathers' names and occupations from the marriage certificate to be sure of which John and Martha to follow on the parish registers.

1881 census RG11 761 folio 141
East Street Epsom  Surrey 
John Tribe  53 (but should be 63) Lurgurshall, Sussex, Lodger  Widower Blacksmith

Deaths Dec 1877 
TRIBE  Martha  66  Epsom  2a 12

Deaths Mar 1891   
TRIBE  John  73  Epsom  2a 20

Regards

Valda