Fred ARCHER

[indiapaleale]

Hmmm......can't do 1871...

I can find John and Mary in the index..living in Swayfield.....but...when I click on the link it takes me to a plea document for an Ann Cody who must have got in trouble with Mr Plod in New York city.......interesting......but very far from Lincolnshire....

The strangest Ancestry error that I have ever seen!

Will try and find a marriage for John and Ann

[indiapaleale]

This is probably the one...but a birth cert from one of the children would confirm.

John Archer married Mary Robinson June Quarter 1868 -Southwell, Notts. 7b-461
Southwell dist includes Rolleston.........

Hope this all helps..

Do you have Fred's marriage cert to confirm that his Dad is John?

[yogibear]

THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP IT HAS MADE A FAMILY CONNECTION EVEN MORE INTERSETING

[DS]

yogibear

This is the transcription for the 1871 census entry that indiapaleale had trouble with. I still cannot access the page from the original document but I can now, at least, extract this information....

1871

Bourn Corby RG10/3311 Folio 89 Page 3

John Archer Head M 26 Lincolnshire Swayfield
Mary do Wife M 23 Notts Rolleston
Elizabeth do Daur 2 Notts Maplebeck
Sarah J do Daur 1 Lincolnshire Swayfield

DS

ps Did you notice on the 1881 census that Elizabeth has the surname Robinson ?

[DS]

This looks like it could be John's family (before he married).

1851

Bourn Corby HO107/2095 Folio 74 Page 6

William Archer Head M 39 Ag Lab Lincolnshire Swayfield
Ann do Wife M 37 Lincolnshire Swayfield
Lois do Daur 13 Lincolnshire Swayfield
Thomas do Son 11 Lincolnshire Swayfield
Anne do Daur 10 Lincolnshire Swayfield
William do Son 8 Lincolnshire Swayfield
John do Son 6 Lincolnshire Swayfield
Mary do Daur 4 Lincolnshire Swayfield
Sarah do Daur 2 Lincolnshire Swayfield

Note
There is another John Archer born Swayfield with birth dates ranging from 1845 to 1847 on the censuses with parents Thomas and Ann. He still appears with his mother on the 1881 census, unmarried, and cannot therefore be the one who married Mary Robinson. Whereas the John shown above is not with his parents in 1871 or 1881 and could, therefore, be the one who married Mary. (He is not with his parents in 1861 either). Need to check in other ways to be certain.

DS

[DS]

Don't know where John is, but here are a couple more siblings in this family.

1861

Bourn Corby RG9/2315 Folio 98 Page 7

William Archer Head M 49 Ag Lab Lincolnshire Swayfield
Ann do Wife M 47 Lincolnshire Swayfield
Ann do Daur U 20 Dressmaker Lincolnshire Swayfield
Mary do Daur 14 Scholar Lincolnshire Swayfield
Sarah do Daur 12 Scholar Lincolnshire Swayfield
Emily do Daur 9 Scholar Lincolnshire Swayfield
George do Son 5 Scholar Lincolnshire Swayfield

DS

[DS]

One more older sibling....

1841

Bourne Corby HO107/622/27 Folio 5 Page 2

William Archer 30 Laborer
Ann do 28
Catherine do 6
Lowis do 4
Thomas do 2
Ann do 8mo

All born in County (Living at Swayfield)

These four children appear on the IGI in batch C032281

DS

ps The surname is indexed as Arther on the census.

[yogibear]

THANKS I WILL LOOK AT THESE AND GET BACK

[barbarad]

This looks like it could be John's family (before he married).

1851

Bourn Corby HO107/2095 Folio 74 Page 6

William Archer Head M 39 Ag Lab Lincolnshire Swayfield
Ann do Wife M 37 Lincolnshire Swayfield
Lois do Daur 13 Lincolnshire Swayfield
Thomas do Son 11 Lincolnshire Swayfield
Anne do Daur 10 Lincolnshire Swayfield
William do Son 8 Lincolnshire Swayfield
John do Son 6 Lincolnshire Swayfield
Mary do Daur 4 Lincolnshire Swayfield
Sarah do Daur 2 Lincolnshire Swayfield

Note
There is another John Archer born Swayfield with birth dates ranging from 1845 to 1847 on the censuses with parents Thomas and Ann. He still appears with his mother on the 1881 census, unmarried, and cannot therefore be the one who married Mary Robinson. Whereas the John shown above is not with his parents in 1871 or 1881 and could, therefore, be the one who married Mary. (He is not with his parents in 1861 either). Need to check in other ways to be certain.

DS

Hope no one minds me resurrecting this thread


My partner is descended from Thomas Archer age 11 in the above transcript. 

While investigating the family I discovered that Lois had two illegitimate children, the younger being born in Bourne Workhouse. 

What is intriguing me though is that she is listed as Lois Archer until 1881, but in 1891 and 1901 she is listed as Lois Crow widow (confirmed by children's names and ages).   I can't see a marriage for her to a Mr Crow (other people have looked as well).

If anyone has any information as to how she became "Mrs" Crow I'd be very grateful for the information.