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Charles Lilley look up 1851 census pls
« on: Saturday 06 January 07 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
  Can anyone help me find Charles Lilley born about 1832/33 in either Birchholt, Brook or Brabourne ( depending on which of the later censuses you look at) on the 1851 census. He married in 1852 so am hoping he was still at home in 1851 as i would like to find out who his parents and siblings were. He married Mary Ann Woolley in 1852 also born 1832/33 and any details of her parents would be great too. She was born In Maidstone i think.
many thanks
Julie
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Re: Charles Lilley look up 1851 census pls
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 January 07 18:41 GMT (UK) »
Looks like you may need to go back to 1841 ...


A Brabourne Chas is a bit younger - born 1844, but this lad matches your age stated ...

1851 - HO107/1622; Folio: 191; Page: 2 - Bircholt

 
Pheobe Morley 74  Wid Head Farmer
John Morley 45  son
Mace Morley 42  son

Charlotte Hayward 23  serrant
Charles Lilly 19  Farm Servant Bircholt
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Re: Charles Lilley look up 1851 census pls
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 January 07 18:43 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately ....
Farm House, Bircholt, Kent
Phoebe Morley (Farmer) and her sons and Charlotte Hayward, House Servant
Charles Lilly Servant U 19 Farm Servant Kent Bircholt
HO107/ 1622; Folio: 191; Page: 2
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: Charles Lilley look up 1851 census pls
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 January 07 18:46 GMT (UK) »
Or how about this one?

HO107/477/11 folio 28 page 8
 1841 living at Chapelbrow, East Brabourne an ag lab aged 25
with Rebecca aged 25 and George 2 all born Kent
probably too old??
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Charles Lilley look up 1851 census pls
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 January 07 18:46 GMT (UK) »
The only one listed in 1841, you may know better than me whether the area might be correct, and also if you have his father's name that might confirm.

All born in County
Nackholt, Wye, Kent
Mark Lillee 40 Ag Lab
Elizabeth 40
Sarah 12
James 10
Charles 8
Charlotte 6
Jane 4
Thomas 2
Harriot 20 months
HO107/476/13 23/4
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: Charles Lilley look up 1851 census pls
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 January 07 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Wye is in the wrong Hundred, I'd also expected it to be PIECE 477 - but it is same Regn District of East Ashford - looks good I'd say.

As Mary says, if you have the marriage Cert, is his father Mark ?

HO107/476/13 - Wye
Registration district of East Ashford 
Folio: 23 
Page: 4 
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Re: Charles Lilley look up 1851 census pls
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 January 07 18:56 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks to all of you for looking Charles up for me. I don't know his parents names but have ordered a marriage cert which i am hoping will show his father. I shall keep the details of the family that Mary has found on the 1841 as it is a big possibility that this is the right family as Wye is a few miles away from Bircholt and Brook.
Thank you so much again for your help.
Julie
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Re: Charles Lilley look up 1851 census pls
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 January 07 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Same story for Mary Ann in 1851 .

HO107/1622; Folio: 86; Page: 19 - Aldington Kent

In the Service of a Phillip Getts, Farmer.
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Re: Charles Lilley look up 1851 census pls
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 January 07 19:18 GMT (UK) »
Just my luck! Thanks for looking anyway.
Julie
Tyrrell in Hastings and Brighton, Sussex and Oxfordshire.
Woodburne in Kirkby Ireleth and Ulverston, Lancs.
Annetts in Hampshire
Harris in Coventry, Warwickshire and Barrow in Furness, Lancs
Lewis in West Bromwich, Staffordshire and Barrow in Furness Lancs.
Askew in Colton, Lancs
 Maxted in Kent
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