1881 Census check for Groom please..

[suzard]

1901
Harwarden Flints
15 Brook Rd
Thomas H Groom 24 Stationery Engine Driver Cheshire Chester
Betsey wife 30 Cheshire neston
Edith M 4 Cheshire neston
Betsey 3 Yorks heckmondwite
Emily E? 1 Flints Shotton
Kate 2weeks Flints Shotton
Annie newton visitor S 24 Housemaid domestic Cheshire Neston

Suz

[ossymark]

Suz..

Thats great, my great grandad.. Thank you very much.

Mark

[nanny jan]

I went to the 1901 census site and just used the basic search box (first name & surname); then had a look through the list which was in order of age; youngest first.   I often use this route just to check things!

Also watch for "free access offer" to various websites which Rootschatters always advertise; very useful.

Nanny Jan

[ossymark]

Tried it and yes confirmed a middle name from 1901, thank you..

I'll keep my eye on the "free access" offers, thanks again.

Mark

[ossymark]

I'm having problems confirming the age (year and quarter) of both Samuel and Sarah from the above 1851 census.  From checking both Free and Cheshire BMD's there is conflicting information, i.e different birth years and then no record at all?

Can I ask someone to kindly check the age entry for both on the 1861 census, they still remained in the area if not at the same address.

Thank you

Mark

[suzard]

1861
St Oswalds Chester
Northgate Street
Thomas groom 47 brazier
Frances 50
William 19 Joiner
Samuel 18 Tin plate worker
Sarah 17 Dressmaker
John 16 Shoemaker
Joseph Bramall nephew 18 Shoemaker
all b Chester

FreeBMD
Death Sept qtr 1884
Chester
Samuel Groom
age 42
8a 258

ages are consistent on 1851/61

[suzard]

1871
Northgate Street Cheshire
Frances Groom W 59 Tin ware dealer employing 1 man
Sarah groom daughter 26 Dressmaker
Sarah A Emerson Granddaughter 10
all b chester
RG10 3731 69 34

Birth possibility???
FreeBMD
Sarah Ann Groom
Mar qtr 1844
Gt Boughton
19 36

Suz

[ossymark]

Suz..

Thats brilliant thank you and yes I can agree that Samuel's date of death is correct and that Sarah was indeed Sarah Ann with a birth year as shown.  The information is all there however there seems to be another query thrown up with Frances's year of birth.  Census's for 1871 & 1861 add up however the one for 1851 would suggest she was younger (date of birth 1816 or 1811?).

I notice that the BMD records only start at 1837.  When trying to find out dates for earlier periods where would you then turn?

Thanking you

Mark

[suzard]

pre Sept qtr 1837 for BMD we need to look at parish/church records
You may not get d.o.b. as very often just the baptism date is given

Suz