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1881 Census check for Groom please..
« on: Thursday 04 January 07 22:09 GMT (UK) »
Samuel, a tinplateworker and born in 1842? was, I believe, resident at Garden Lane (St Oswalds) Chester.  Is someone able to confirm the address and those resident at the time of the census please?

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Mark
The surname Groom in and around Chester prior to 1837..

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Re: 1881 Census check for Groom please..
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 January 07 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mark,

Welcome to RootsChat!

Transcripts of 1881 census are free to view on both www.ancestry.co.uk and www.familysearch.org

They give the address as 8 Raymond Street and with Samuel is Martha his wife and 7 children:

Emily 13
Ellen 12
Edith 10
Elizabeth 7
Thomas H 7
Martha A 3
Arthur 2

Samuel is shown as a Tin Smith.

Hope this is the right family for you.

Nanny Jan
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
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Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
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Re: 1881 Census check for Groom please..
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 January 07 22:27 GMT (UK) »
Madam

This is indeed the right family, Thomas Henry is the link and I am very grateful for this..

Thank you

Mark
The surname Groom in and around Chester prior to 1837..

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Re: 1881 Census check for Groom please..
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 January 07 22:28 GMT (UK) »


Pleased to be able to help out!

Nanny Jan
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: 1881 Census check for Groom please..
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 January 07 22:50 GMT (UK) »
This looks like their marriage Samuel Groom to Martha Lockley in Qtr Dec 1866 Gt Broughton(From Free BMD)

And this looks like Samuel with his parents in 1851

St Oswald,Chester,Cheshire
H0107 Piece 2172 Folio 24 Page 41
Thomas Groom,Head,37,Brazier
Frances Groom,Wife,35
William Groom,Son,9.
Mary Groom,Dau,11
Samuel Groom,Son,8
Sarah Groom,Dau,7
John Groom,Son,5.
Margaret Barnett?,Lodger,34
Joseph Barnett?,Son,8
All born Chester,Cheshire

Possible marriage Thomas Groom to Frances Nield in Qtr Dec 1837 Great Broughton(Free BMD)

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Re: 1881 Census check for Groom please..
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 January 07 23:01 GMT (UK) »
Madam

The link is there, Samuel born 1842, spot on and many thanks.. The link also to his father adds up with the marraige year so again thank you very much.

Mark

The surname Groom in and around Chester prior to 1837..

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Re: 1881 Census check for Groom please..
« Reply #6 on: Friday 05 January 07 12:09 GMT (UK) »
Samuel's son, Thomas Henry was born in 1874 and remained in the Chester area where his first child (I believe) was born in 1903, in Shotton.

Can anyone confirm this from the 1901 census please?

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Mark
The surname Groom in and around Chester prior to 1837..

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Re: 1881 Census check for Groom please..
« Reply #7 on: Friday 05 January 07 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mark,

Had a quick, free, look at 1901 index and found a Thomas H Groom b Cheshire but living in Flints, Hawarden and working as a "stationary engine driver".

Did not spot any other Grooms that could fit the bill!  If this is not your man then he could be mistranscribed; every branch of my tree has mistranscriptions on 1901 census.

Nanny Jan
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: 1881 Census check for Groom please..
« Reply #8 on: Friday 05 January 07 13:14 GMT (UK) »
Thats him..

"free" look?  I'm sorry I'm new at this and thought there was a cost for everything?

Can you direct me?

Thanks

Mark
The surname Groom in and around Chester prior to 1837..
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