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Dollman/Parmeter 1841 & 1851 Census - COMPLETED
« on: Thursday 04 January 07 04:26 GMT (UK) »
I'm looking for a bit more info on:-
DOLLMAN  Charles John b.c.1817 - place unknown
PARMETER  Eliza Harriett b.c.1823 - place unknown

They married Dec Q 1842 Islington and had the following children:-
DOLLMAN  William Parmeter  b.  Mar Q 1846 St Geo Han SQ
DOLLMAN  Walter  b. Dec Q 1847  Lambeth
DOLLMAN  Henry Herbert  b. Mar Q 1852 Guildford

By July 1854 they were in Sth Australia.
Hoping that Charles & Eliza may be on 1841 Census before they married and on the 1851 Census as married couple with children.
Appreciate your help & hope I'm in the right location i.e. London  -  regards,  Sashar
Researching:
Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth

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Re: Dollman/Parmeter 1841 & 1851 Census
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 January 07 05:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi

1851 Census England Surrey Southwark St Olave
HO107/1559/53/5
42 Turley Street

DOLLMAN
Charles John Head Marr 34 Chemist Middlesex Westminster
Eliza Harriett Wife Marr 30 Hampshire Gosport
William P Son Unmarr 5 Middlesex Westminster
Edith Dau Umarr 1 Surrey St Olaves

Cheers
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Re: Dollman/Parmeter 1841 & 1851 Census
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 January 07 05:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karenlee,
Thankyou for that interesting information.
I didn't expect to find a Chemist as Charles's occupation.  I'll have to a bit more digging this end in Aust.
One of his grandsons eventually became Lord Mayor of Unley in Sth Aust. and had quite an interesting civilian and army life.

Really appreciate your help - Sashar
Researching:
Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth

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Re: Dollman/Parmeter 1841 & 1851 Census
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 January 07 07:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I'm a bit slow on the takeup here.
On the 1851 Census, Walter who was b.1847 Lambeth is missing.  I've lost Walter and gained Edith, who I didn't have on my records before.

Walter came to Aust, married and had children so I know he was alive in 1851. 
Is it possible to find Walter DOLLMAN on the 1851 Census?

From the previous info that was sent I have been able to find some of this family on the LDS site as well as records in Australia, thankyou so much - Sashar
Researching:
Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth


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Re: Dollman/Parmeter 1841 & 1851 Census
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 January 07 08:08 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, can't find him at all.  Maybe was with family and got put under their surname and not his own.  Grandparents perhaps given his young age.  Any ideas ??

Will keep trying though.

Karen
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Re: Dollman/Parmeter 1841 & 1851 Census
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 January 07 08:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karenlee,

Bit mysterious isn't it?
DOLLMAN and PARMETER are the only 2 surnames I've got so if there is nothing under those I guess he'll have to go missing - Where's Wally?

Thanks for your help, if I get any ideas I'll get back - regards,  Sashar
Researching:
Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth

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Re: Dollman/Parmeter 1841 & 1851 Census
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 January 07 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Hmm, I think Eliza might be in Liverpool in 1841!

Nelson St, Liverpool (HO 107/565/3 12/16)
Jane Preston, 40
Jane Neal, 40
Mary Parmeter, 50
Eliza Parmeter, 20
Amelia Parmeter, 15
all born out of county

(I note on the IGI that Eliza Harriet is the daughter of William and Mary and does have a sister Amelia who was christened in 1827)

Incidentally, one of Charles' brothers, Alexander Plenius, appears to marry in Liverpool in 1841 - I wonder if that's how they met?
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Re: Dollman/Parmeter 1841 & 1851 Census
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 January 07 23:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jorose,
Thankyou for sending that information.  I did find Eliza's baptism & parents on LDS which confirms your finding of William & Mary.

I'm really pleased to have the 1841 Census results for them as I didn't know about Amelia.

If you have further info you can send on Charles family I think that would prove interesting.  I have nothing on them, so I was excited to see you had found Alexander.  That Christian name pops up in the family in Aust.
I've also just found in Aust. that Ruth Dollman, a daughter of Charles, married a John HOOD and he was a photographer from the UK.  I think he was born c.1839-1842 but I don't think I have enough info to trace him yet.  He came to Aus as an adult and he was already a well known photographer/artist in the UK. 

Appreciate anything you can find - regards, Sashar
Researching:
Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth

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Re: Dollman/Parmeter 1841 & 1851 Census
« Reply #8 on: Friday 05 January 07 00:04 GMT (UK) »
In one online entry I find reference to John Hood as an artist/colourist for a photographer originally, although it seems he also did photography:

http://www.artgallery.sa.gov.au/noye/Colorist/Hood_j.htm

In 1861 at Wellington Road, St. Marys (Lambeth) - RG 9/362 82/40, there is:
Elizabeth Hood, 52, b. Staffordshire (widow)
and son John Hood, 19, also b. Staffordshire (I think it says 'Darley' - the image I get on Origins is not that good).
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