Woodhouse Varney

[ruthy]

Hi there,

The plot thickens....

I have had a look on my information to see how your line links back, and this is what I can find.  As I said above the oldest Woodhouse Varney b.1761 had a son Samuel who married Ann Jackson - their only son was a Woodhouse Varney b.1824.  He wandered around on the waterways, and married Louisa Burtonshaw in Gainsborough Lincs.  He was a waterman in Hull in the 1860's.  They had a son, Henry, who married Mary Elizabeth Colley in 1872 in Owston Ferry, Lincs.  In 1881 he was described as a shoeing smith in Hull :
Henry Varney head - aged 31
Mary Elizabeth wife - 35
Arthur - son 12
Walter - son 7
Louisa - daur 5
Alice - daur - 2

I can only find Louisa in the 1891 census as a servant

1901 Walter aged 27 in Hull - blacksmith
Annie - wife 28
Mary E daur - 4
Annie - 2
Timothy J - 5 mths

Does this shed any light? - I presume they had more children one of which was Alice?

have a look on www.familysearch.org

Look forward to hearing any more

Ruthy

[bijoux]

I was just checking your data to mine.  I have Arthur Varney born c1868 listed on the 1881 census as Henry's brother in-law not  his son.  I haven't found the right place for him yet though.

It's a tangled web of Varneys I am still working on it!


Julie in NZ

[ruthy]

Yes you are right - he is down as brother in law, thanks for the alert - it is certainly a tangled web!

[ruthy]

In fact Bijoux I think you may be the person who helped me initially with the whole Varney tree a ear or two ago - can you remember?  It made such a difference - thanks for that 

[Bovar]

I have found out some more information about Samuel Varney, eldest son of Woodhouse senior, and father of Woodhouse junior.

As I inferred before, Samuel seems to have had problems with the law, see this page from WIRKSWORTH Parish Records-Quater -Sessions 1770-1625.

www.wirksworth.org.uk/CRM16.htm

He got off 3 times before being convicted and sentenced to 7 years transportation ( for stealing dishes and milk ).

This is confirmed in the following link

www.multiline.com.au/~jeand/jweb/data/1826.html

found on GENUKI - Derbyshire, records from Derby Assizes.


Click on the bottom link of his 2 entries, and it shows that he spent time on prison ships in Chatam up to 1830 at least, so probably never made it to Australia.

He was given a free pardon in June 1833.

I am almost sure that he died in Rotherham in 1841, shortly before the first UK census.  His widow Mary (Not sure yet what happened to his first wife Ann) was brought to Belper under the poor law provisions, together with 3 daughters, the eldest 5 years old at the time of the 1841 census.  She was in lodgings in Swinney Lane, Belper, and had been found employment in the cotton mill.

It must have been a traumatic time for Samuel's family.  His father had died before his release, but his mother Elizabeth was still alive, and living with her second son, Thomas. 

What happened to Woodhouse junior during this time I dont know, but from July 15 1833 to August 30 1833 he was at Strutt's school in Belper, and stated to be living in Commonside.  His father is said to be a nailer.

see www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/Belper/StruttSchool/V.html

He left to 'go to the mill' .  It seems that the law at this time required children to be able to write their name before being employed ! ( he was 10 years old).

Did his eventual move to the waterways arise from an association with Chatham?

If I remember correctly, by the 1841 census he is on board a boat moored in Castleford, already married.  He is with his wife and very young first born.

In 1851 his wife appears to be living with the in laws.  His name has been entered by the enumerator, but crossed out.  His census entry is on a boat off the Anglesey coast.

In 1861 he is moored on the Ouse?, near Selby Yorks.

I so far haven't found any record of his death.


Bovar.










                         

[waterloo]

I have some more infor on Varneys  Woodhouse Varney the second married a Louisa Brurtonshaw in1837 in west Butterwick thats in lincolnshire I have there marriage certicficate in front of me She is down as being a Dressmaker and her fatheris down as a blacksmith when there son Henry was 6 he was sent to live with his grandfather to learn a trade
I also belive that the boats that Woodhouse was on was a cannel boat
 I haven't yet found his death or how his wife and children landed up living at Hull but intend to keep looking let me know if I can help futher

[ruthy]

We are getting quite a good picture developing, and I have a little more info....

Re: Samuel Varney, I have found reference to a death of the same name in Rotherham in the Oct/Nov/Dec quarter of 1840. This links in with your information Bovar.  I have sent for the death certificate to see what info I can glean, and hopefully it will be the Samuel in question - will post what I find in a week or so.

Ruthy

[ruthy]

Re: Samuel Varney

I now have info from the death certificate - death,aged 40, was on 14th October 1840 at Westgate, Rotherham. His occupation was written as a nailmaker, and his cause of death was simply written as "not known".  there was a cross which was the mark of Mary Ann who was present.  The death was registered 14th (or something "eenth") Novenber.

This sounds like him - I am not sure why the cause of death was so vague...unless that was the lot of the poor.

Any thoughts?

Ruthy

[ruthy]

A further point which I omitted was that the cross was from Mary Ann Pickles - maybe the Pickles was her maiden name. In following census' the Mary Ann shown was a Varney.

Ruthy