Firemen (Firefighters)

[Lori.o]

From the Commonwealth Wargraves Commission:

Name: CERT, GEORGE CHRISTIAN
Initials: G C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment/Service: Civilian War Dead
Age: 32
Date of Death: 24/08/1944
Additional information: Fireman, N.F.S.; of 84 Chesterton Terrace, Plaistow. Husband of Violet Rose Cert. a N.F.S. Station, Abbey Road.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Reporting Authority: WEST HAM, COUNTY BOROUGH


http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=3105507

[Lori.o]

I know the fella well who did research on the West Ham Cemetery, I'll post him a message and see if he knows anything regarding the grave of George Cert.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=658435

If you go to this link on the CWGC site for West Ham


http://www.cwgc.org/search/cemetery_details.aspx?cemetery=4004016&mode=1

George is listed there as #199

I would take this to mean he is buried in the West Ham Cemetery.

[Lori.o]

As it turns out, the reporting authority as in the first post  means where death occurred or where the inquest was held. I knew that, but the second listing I found on CWGC does suggest that this man was buried in West Ham - but apparently does not mean that. So he may not be at West Ham after all. Best to call as mentioned above. Apparently West Ham will do searches for free.

[IAN WALKER]

Hello Ian, George Christian Cert was my late Father's older brother.  I'm sorry I don't know where he is buried.  He was known in the family as Tom, I believe.  Do you know any other family members you could ask?  Unfortunately, there aren't many left now.

Hello can you tell me who your dad's name was , as the mum would like to know.

[MarieM]

Hello Ian, My Dad's name was Robert (Bob).  He was the second youngest in the family.

[piggyroo]

My great great uncle was Leonard Roots who died at old palace school on night of 19/20 April.  It was nice to find his name here as I'm trying to learn more about him.

[liv.j.smith]

Hello Ian, George Christian Cert was my late Father's older brother.  I'm sorry I don't know where he is buried.  He was known in the family as Tom, I believe.  Do you know any other family members you could ask?  Unfortunately, there aren't many left now.

Hello can you tell me who your dad's name was , as the mum would like to know.

Hi Ian

My name is Olivia, I was at the Imperial War Museum today and as my mum's maiden name was Cert, I typed this into a search engine, and it came up with George Christian Cert. I typed this into Google and just found this thread - not sure if you're still on here, but thought it was worth a try!

George was my Great Uncle. His brother (my Grandad - although I never met him) was married to Rose and they lived in Eversden in Cambridgeshire. Violet was my Great Auntie! Please get in touch so that we can discuss!

Olivia

[liv.j.smith]

Hello Ian, My Dad's name was Robert (Bob).  He was the second youngest in the family.

Hi Marie

Just posted this message to Ian Walker, and just saw your message - so hoping one or both of you reply!

My name is Olivia, I was at the Imperial War Museum today and as my mum's maiden name was Cert, I typed this into a search engine, and it came up with George Christian Cert. I typed this into Google and just found this thread - not sure if you're still on here, but thought it was worth a try!

George was my Great Uncle. His brother (my Grandad - although I never met him) was married to Rose and they lived in Eversden in Cambridgeshire. Violet was my Great Auntie! Please get in touch so that we can discuss!

Olivia

[-Glen-]

Hi Bob,

This is a great forum!

I've discovered that my 4X Great Grandfather 'George Richard Staples' was a Lighterman, then became a Fireman in 1822 (I don't know for which Insurance Company though), he was then part of the London Fire Engine Establishment and then later the Metropolitan/London Fire Brigade.

I've found from various records, that he was based at Watling Street, Chandos Street and King Street stations - all in London - throughout the 1840s to 1870s.

Several items (clocks, watches, teapots, etc) are mentioned in his will, that were presented to him by Captain Eyre Massey Shaw.

His oldest son worked for the London Salvage Corps and another son was a 'Fire Messenger'.

He appears in several 'court minutes' from the Old Bailey records online, but unfortunately, the LFB Museum has nothing on my Staples ancestors. Are you aware of anywhere else that I could search for records? (E.g. any kind of service records?)

Many thanks,
Glen.