Elizabeth Hayston - 1851 / 61 census

[liverpool annie]

Hi Mike !

Well the birth date was about right for John Hayston..... and he died BEFORE the wedding in 1869 !! 

I wish I could come up with a reason all the men folk were gone ........... too early for the Crimean War ........
the boys could be working down the mine that night .... maybe there was a census done at the mine .... if we could find out which one  ....
maybe John was hurt ..... maybe an accident .............. easier for Mary to say she was a widow !!

Like you said .... too many questions !! 

Annie 

[Geoff E]

You think this maybe your John .... Mike ?? ...... wonder if they were just separated ?

 ... separated before 1826 presumably, as none of the baptisms gives a father's name. 

[liverpool annie]

Just in case you might be interested in the mines ........... 

The mineral productions are very valuable, including coal, lead, silver, iron, copper, and plumbago, and afford work to a large number of hands. Limestone is burnt in large quantities for exportation. There are 28 collieries in the county, of which 12 are near Maryport, 8 near Workington, and 4 near Whitehaven. There are also 2 near Wigton, 1 at Aspatria, and 1 at Harrington At Whitehaven the principal entrance to the mines is by a long passage hewn in the rock, at the foot of a hill, with galleries intersecting it. The King-pit, the deepest in the mine, runs under the sea to a depth of 960 feet, the water above being deep enough to allow a passage to ships of a considerable size. At Workington the pits are not so deep, being usually from 240 to 500 feet.

Iron-ore is also very plentiful near Whitehaven. There are 18 mines in the vicinity; the most noted being Crowgarth, near Egremont, where the band of ore lies at the depth of about 70, feet, and is from 24 to 25 feet thick. This mine supplies the Carron Foundry in Scotland. Near Alston there are more than 40 lead-mines, most of them belong to Greenwich Hospital, to which they were granted on the attainder and execution of their former owner, the Earl of Derwentwater, in 1716. Lead has been also discovered between Saddleback and Skiddaw, at Newlands and Thornthwaite, and near Buttermere.

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[Mike E]

.... I especially like the link with Fletcher Hayston bap 1832.   This is an unusual first name (possibly a surname link somewhere?) yet I know that Elizabeth Hayston and John Whittaker named one of their sons Joseph Fletcher Whittaker (b.1870), and in the 1881 census Elizabeth (re-married to John Clark) has a Fletcher Flood, nephew, aged 18, living with them. 

Just a short postscript that completes the loop:  Fletcher Flood  was baptised in 1863 (source: IGI) - father was a James Flood and Maria.  1871 census in Whitehaven shows Fletcher and James Flood b. in Ireland 1835, but no mother present.  I have found a marriage for James Flood in Whitehaven, 1860 - to guess who? - Maria Hayston (Elizabeth's sister b.1841).

In conclusion - I feel very confident this is the right Hayston family.

Where was Maria Flood in 1871 ? - not sure, but I have found a Maria Flood, b. 1841 in Workington, in the 1871 census in Lorton (near Cockermouth) lodging with with Ann Hastings b. about 1807 in the Isle of Man.  Could Ann be a sister (-in-law ) of Mary Hayston?

Mike

[Geoff E]

lodging with with Ann Hastings b. about 1807 in the Isle of Man.  Could Ann be a sister (-in-law ) of Mary Hayston?

Mike

There's an Ann HASTINGS 1801 on IGI - mother Elinor ... did you ask who the Eleanor aged 70 in 1841 was?

I haven't mentioned it thus far, but I had an ancestor called Isabella HAYSTON (bap 1779) who was one of the Harrington HAYSTONs.  I'm not aware of any connection, but note that Isabella was a name that your lot used too.

[Mike E]

Geoff -  that's very interesting.

I have not looked closely at Eleanor Hayston aged 70 in 1841; but have noticed that there is one Elenor Hayston on IGI bapt 20 Jun 1773 in St Nicholas, Whitehaven,  parents John Hayston and Isabella.   A parent search on IGI finds a couple more with the same parents names but further north in Aspatria and Alston - so probably not related.

I would be interested in more info on your Isabella Hayston bap 1779, please.  Harrington is very near so seems a possible connection.

I am planning to visit Cumbria in February (fortunately, I have living relatives in Ravenglass) - so a trip to the archives in Whitehaven is a must!

Mike

[Geoff E]

I would be interested in more info on your Isabella Hayston bap 1779, please.  Harrington is very near so seems a possible connection.

Her parents were William HAYSTON and Ann GLAISTER who married at Harrington in 1772.

There seem to be no HAYSTON "events" in Harrington before 1766.  I had considered that they could have been connected to the HAYSTONs who were in Workington in the earlier 1700s but have yet to prove a link.

[larry.t]

Hello there Mike E, I hope you still read the replies. I am researching my GGGGG Grandmother, Mary Hayston b:1739 in Workington, and Married Robert Telford in 1763 at Distington, you seem to have a lot of information in the 1800's I wonder if you know anything or have discussed the 1700's, I would appreciate any information at all because I and many others in the Telford clan have hit a wall completely.
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[Mike E]

Hello there Mike E, I hope you still read the replies. I am researching my GGGGG Grandmother, Mary Hayston b:1739 in Workington, and Married Robert Telford in 1763 at Distington, you seem to have a lot of information in the 1800's I wonder if you know anything or have discussed the 1700's, I would appreciate any information at all because I and many others in the Telford clan have hit a wall completely.

Hi Larry -

The only information I have on Haystons goes back to the following (A composite of my research from several sources including Whitehaven archives) -

Mary Jane Hayston
Birth:   About 1806/1812   Place:   Branthwaite, Cumberland
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Children...
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1. F Child:   Isabella Hayston
Birth:   1826   Place:   Greysouthern, Cumberland
Christen:   12 Feb 1826   Place:   Gt and Little Clifton
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2. M Child:   John Hayston
Birth:   1827   Place:   Cumberland
Christen:   7 Oct 1827   Place:   Little Clifton chapel
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3. M Child:   James Hayston
Birth:   1830   Place:   Cumberland
Christen:   3 Oct 1830   Place:   Gt and Little Clifton
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4. M Child:   Fletcher Hayston
Birth:   1832   Place:   Workington, Cumberland
Christen:   30 Sep 1832   Place:   Gt and Little Clifton
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5. F Child:   Maria Hayston
Birth:   1838   Place:   Clifton, Cumberland
Christen:   19 Aug 1838   Place:   Little Clifton chapel
Spouse:   James Flood
Marriage:   17 Sep 1860   Place:   Whitehaven  Jul-Sept 10b 669 (cert held)
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6. F Child:   Jane Hayston
Birth:   About Jan 1842   Place:   Greysouthern, Cumberland
Spouse:   Charles Townsley
Marriage:   19 Dec 1969   Place:   Workington parish church
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7. F Child:   Elizabeth Hayston
Birth:   1843   Place:   Crossbarrow / Little Clifton, nr Cockermouth, Cumberland
Christen:   3 May 1843   Place:   Little Clifton chapel
Spouse:   John Whittaker
Marriage:   8 Dec 1869   Place:   Cockermouth parish church, cert held
Spouse:   John Clark
Marriage:   11 Apr 1880   Place:   Parish church, Workington (cert held)
Spouse:   unknown
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8. F Child:   Elenor Hayston
Birth:   About 1847   Place:   Clifton, Cumberland 
Spouse:   William Townsley
Marriage:   12 Jun 1865   Place:   Parish Church, Workington
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9. F Child:   Matilda Hayston
Birth:   1850   Place:   Workington, Cumberland
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10. F Child:   Mary Jane Hayston
Birth:   1859   Place:   Workington
Christen:   24 Apr 1859   Place:   Workington

I hope this helps - and would be interested if you find a link.

Mike