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Re: Assumptions being made - help required
« Reply #18 on: Monday 15 January 07 17:26 GMT (UK) »

Hi Jennifer,

Firstly I think it should be Morton on Swale - I will check this out for you!!

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« Reply #19 on: Monday 15 January 07 17:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jen
Have you sent off for John's birth cert - that should give his parent's names

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« Reply #20 on: Monday 15 January 07 18:27 GMT (UK) »
Jeni
Try the Dales Family History group - part of Cleveland FHS.   They have a very active email group who are all experts in that area.
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« Reply #21 on: Monday 15 January 07 21:01 GMT (UK) »
On the 1891 census John an agricultural labourer is married in Carperby Cum Thoresby, aged 30. He gives his birthplace as Morton on Swale.
In 1901 the family is in Thornton Steward. John a 39 year old horseman on a farm, consistently gives his birthplace as Morton on Swale.

I can't see John on the 1881 census?
What information does his marriage certificate give about his father?

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Re: Assumptions being made - help required
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 07:17 GMT (UK) »

Hi everyone,

I have a strong feeling the missing link is in the Crakehall/Burneston area, but I can't put my finger on it at this early hour?

Could someone please check to see if there is a possible connection to this neck of the woods?

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Re: Assumptions being made - help required
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Guys,

I have managed to find a couple of possibilities for John Hauxwell in earlier census'. But they need some more investigation. The correct spelling of John's name is HAUXWELL. However on Ancestry.co.uk's website he appears on the 1901 census as John Hawlxwell (which I think is someone not understanding the writing on the census!)

In 1891 he appears as John Hauxwell.

In 1881 he appears as John Hawkswell (my name), but the birthplace has moved to Crakehall and not Moreton on Swale.

After hours of searching I think I might have found him on Crakehall's records for 1871, if finds a John Hankswell aged 6 which would make his birth year 1865, but I'm pretty sure that he was born in 1863. It says that this John was born in Moreton on Swale and gives the parents names of Dorothy and James both born in 1818. And 3 sisters called Harriet b.1857, Mary b.1852 and Philas b. 1862. Now although all this excited me (the 1871 census) I can't be sure that it is him. I'm going to try to order his birth certificate, but I want to be sure which John Hauxwell is right! John's Dad was a Green Grocer and his Mum was a Servant.

Hopefully this might lead to some more information!

Thanks, Jeni.
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 11:04 GMT (UK) »


Hi Jeni,

Brilliant news, I think you are on the right track here!! I had found this family living in Crakehall - and John in 1881. The similarities were too much of a coincidence!


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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 11:10 GMT (UK) »


Here is something that might be of interest for you to browse through:

http://www.glenlodge.me.uk/crakehallindex.html
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 16 January 07 14:26 GMT (UK) »


Hi again,

I've just checked the 1871 on Ancestry after looking at the transcriptions on the link I sent you.

Ian Hancock, the owner of the web site has transcribed their name as Haukswell in 1871.
Ancestry have confused the issue by transcibing the name as Hankswell, on the actual return it clearly reads as Haukswell.

I checked the family in 1881, ref. RG11/4871, folio 82, page 10. The name is now written as Hauxwell.

Quite sure you are already aware of all this, but it's sometimes reassuring to know that someone else is reaching the same conclusions!

I will keep my fingers crossed for the outcome of the certificate!

Kind regards,

Pels

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