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Re: 1851? census lookup
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 22:29 GMT (UK) »
The 1851 Census entry for Alexander with mother Catherine in Inverness, son Alexander is indexed as Sawyer's son.

Everything is pointing at the moment to the Alloa Alexander. Hopefully, Michael will have additional info to confirm whether we have the right one.

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Re: 1851? census lookup
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 22:42 GMT (UK) »
Oh  :D I do think we are on the right track!

Catherine Henderson Bain is not a widow in 1861 and the Alexander son working as a farm servant is not the correct son....I think!

Have just found this entry in 1861 with father James and son Alexander. Birth places match their 1851 entries. Transcription issues on surnames certainly make for fun searches:

Alexander Brin    18, son, blacksmith, b. Alloa, Clackmannanshire
James Brin 41, blacksmith, b. Bridge of Allan, Stirlingshire

Address: West Cottage, Cramond, Mid Lothian


Michael, when did Alexander marry in England and what was his occupation as shown on the MC?

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Re: 1851? census lookup
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Think the Alloa one is a deffo now, Monica. No others that I can find  :)

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Re: 1851? census lookup
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 23:00 GMT (UK) »
From 1871 Census in Walker, Longbenton, Northumberland:

Alexander Bain, 28, Ship Smith, b. Scotland
Elizabeth, 21, b. Northumberland
Catherine, 1, b. Northumberland

And 1881 in Longbenton, Northumberland:

Alexander, 38, Ship Smith, b. Scotland
Elizabeth, 31, b. Longbenton, Northumberland       
John James, 9, b. Longbenton, Northumberland 
Alexander, 6, b. Longbenton, Northumberland
William, 4, b. Longbenton, Northumberland 
Elizabeth Jane, 2, b. Longbenton, Northumberland

Address: 40 Pit Street, Longbenton


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Re: 1851? census lookup
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 23:19 GMT (UK) »
The marriage details for James and Catherine Henderson, with banns read in two places, actual extracts from the OPRs:

JAMES BEAN and CATHERINE HENDERSON  Marriage: 02 OCT 1841 Logie, Perth/ 22 OCT 1841 Alloa, Clackmannan, Scotland

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Re: 1851? census lookup
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 21 December 06 09:26 GMT (UK) »
:) To Monica and gadget
Thanks a million. My English look-ups confirm what you found and show that Alexander married in 1868 and was a shipwright.
I also know that the first child born in Newcastle was a Catherine who died when only 3 so that maybe ties in with the family names of the Bean family. Is it normal the surnames can change during transcription?

Once again thanks its given me something to chase over Xmas.

Michael


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Re: 1851? census lookup
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 21 December 06 10:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Michael

I did wonder about poor Catherine - daft, I know, but I feel sad when I see all the infant deaths in those days  :'(

It's highly likely that either transcription errors or just changes in spelling led to the Bean/Bain surname -   e and i look very similar when written in some hands.

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Re: 1851? census lookup
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 21 December 06 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Michael

It certainly feels like the right family, specially with first born daughter called Catherine. Don't forget about that 1855 birth cert. in Alloa, it will provide you with additional info re Alexander's parents hopefully.

In respect of the issue of Bean/Bain and other variants, you have to remember that names in those times were not rigid as they are in 'modern' times. There were many variants that were used in that period for surnames (and first names for that matter). This is one of the reasons why when you search on IGI, it automatically throws up a number of variants in your search results.

Enjoy Xmas with nearest and dearest  :)

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Re: 1851? census lookup
« Reply #17 on: Friday 23 February 07 00:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

I'm a newbie here, but I have much more info on the Bean family that is being asked about.  If we can prove the connection, this group will belong to my husband's Bean family, who resided all through Central Scotland.

I can also put geordielux in touch with Alexander's brother, John McLeod Bean's descendants in Canada.

Oh yes - re the surname.  If you say 'Bean' with a Scottish accent, it comes out 'Bain' - reason that it's spelt  Bean / Bain / Bayne / Been / Bone.  Tis not a transcription error.

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