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Re: Names you just don't see anymore
« Reply #153 on: Tuesday 02 January 07 10:59 GMT (UK) »
One of the ancestors I've researched is a Major, although I'm not sure if it's his name or rank.  But his middled or first name is Philo.  Seems to be a popular name in the family.  Reminds me of a flaky dough!  RedFox
CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn,  Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL:  Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK:  Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC:  Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX:  Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA:  MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz

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Re: Names you just don't see anymore
« Reply #154 on: Tuesday 02 January 07 21:47 GMT (UK) »
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One of the ancestors I've researched is a Major, although I'm not sure if it's his name or rank.  But his middled or first name is Philo.  Seems to be a popular name in the family.  Reminds me of a flaky dough!  RedFox
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Wasn't Clint Eastwoods character in Every Which Way But Loose called Philo Bedoe? Or something like that - it was one of the films with the Orang Otang.
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Re: Names you just don't see anymore
« Reply #155 on: Tuesday 02 January 07 22:49 GMT (UK) »
pennine - I think you're right about the name of the film.  Without checking, the name of the character sounds right too.  Red Fox
CUMLD: Davidson, Robson, Atkinson, Blackburn,  Wilkinson, Mumberson, Milburn
CRNWL:  Dawe, Bawden, Leming
CHES: Heginbotham
YRK:  Dawe, Jackson, Ranson, Leming
LANC:  Dawe, Harris, Thomas, Bellamy or Billany, Bayliff, Madsen
EAST SSX:  Etchingham - Woolgar
SCT: RXB-Robson, REN & LNK-Lisle/Lyle/Leill, Taylor, Masson
WALES: Dawe
USA:  MI - Dawe, Stringer, Lisle, Robson, Davidson, Mills, Handy, Betzner, Leeper, Fankboner, Ross, Lyle
IRE: Bell, Prestley/Priestley
GER: Wuerttemberg - Betz

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Re: Names you just don't see anymore
« Reply #156 on: Tuesday 02 January 07 22:53 GMT (UK) »
I have just been searching the births indexs and found these unsual names

Emblen and Kerenhappuch and on the IGI a marriage of a Fortunatus!
this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith.    West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs,   Essex  Barker,   Hampshire  Kill, Kent Spong,   U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley


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Re: Names you just don't see anymore
« Reply #157 on: Wednesday 03 January 07 10:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi, like most people, my family have the same old names repeated every generation - kings of England for the boys and common biblical names for boys and girls. So when there's an exception it leaps out at you. Early on I have Imri and Enoch.

Imri is biblical and so rare in this country (not abroad, how about footballer Imre Varadi?) that you can search Ancestry on christian name alone and not get many hits. It turns out ours was pinched from a local squire, but I don't know where he got it from. A nephew got the same name and gets transcribed as Lurri, Envi....

Enoch is commoner but unknown in our family until William Enoch Skelcey. His mother died giving birth to him and he was brought up by his aunt Elizabeth Enock (sic) and seemingly was given that middle name for that reason. He seems to have gone by the name Enoch to distinguish himself from all the other William Skelceys in Cubbington.

Which brings me to this question: if Enock is a surname it ought to be a patrionymic which means the name Enoch must have been around during the times when surnames were evolving. And so must other, commoner patrionyms.

Yet I'm struck by the almost complete absence of certain names in my (and as far as I can tell) other trees throughout most of the C19th. The most obvious is Peter - why should that be? - but also Michael (found only in Irishmen) Stephen, Phillip, Paul, Christopher, Roger, Matthew, Neil and others that became popular enough from the 1880s onwards. Yet they must have been popular during the surname formation period - not just the obvious names but Perkins, Mitchell, Hipkins, Kitson, Hodges, Dodgson and so on tell the story.

After about 1880 my family start to get more inventive. My youngest three great aunts were Mabel, Rosa and Lois - new names for the family, and elsewhere appear Sybil, Wilhelmina, Cecil, Cyril, Gladys - old-fashioned names now but then perhaps quite trendy!

Beware mistranscription as always. I was sure "Silly Corbett" was wrong - even in the days of "be good, sweet maid, and let who will be clever" that surely couldn't have been one of the virtues? True, she was "Sibly" on another census and "Sybil" at birth - they couldn't spell.
 
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Re: Names you just don't see anymore
« Reply #158 on: Wednesday 03 January 07 17:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Chris

I have one family where Peter carried on through the generations in the C19th. I do have a family with Enochs too.

I think it is just fashion - I knew no little Victorias when I was growing up - all Susans and Rosemarys, then there were thousands.

Helen
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Fitzgerald, Greenhill .... London
Thursfield, Newey, Berrisford, Wood, Hulme ..... Warwickshire/Staffordshire
Ditchfield, Unsworth, Clarke, Perrin, Orrett .... Cheshire/Lancs
Jones ..... N Wales

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Re: Names you just don't see anymore
« Reply #159 on: Wednesday 03 January 07 18:06 GMT (UK) »
Having just indulged in an Inspector Morse repeat on ITV reminded me of the great Detective's name - Endeavour.  Now there's a name you don't see often!!!!!

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Re: Names you just don't see anymore
« Reply #160 on: Wednesday 03 January 07 18:18 GMT (UK) »
One of my ancestors had 11 children:
William, George, Mary, Charles, Kate, Henry, Jane, Frances, Sarah and John
The 11th was called Samuel Lorenzo! :o 
He was born in 1853.

I have Googled "Samuel Lorenzo" and the only one I can find of note was Samuel Lorenzo KNAPP, an american author.
Why would someone in 19th England name their son after an American author or is there some other explanation?
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Names you just don't see anymore
« Reply #161 on: Wednesday 03 January 07 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Any clues from where they lived or what the occupations were?  Have you looked for Lorenzos elsewhere in your tree?

Sounds intruiging!

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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
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Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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