Francis EDGAR

[ard]

I'm trying to find more out about Francis Edgar, (apparently born around 1865) who married Jane McPhail (nee Leggat) free BMD March quarter 1898, Whitehaven CUL
I couldn't find a birth record for Francis (IGI) and the only 1881 census record doesn't fit, place wise.


An internet 1901 census search revealed these results:

Francis  Edgar 35 b. Jersey Carlisle; census place: Cumberland Carlisle Caldewgate // Railway Engine Fitter
Jane  Edgar 36 b. Scotland ; census place: Cumberland Carlisle Caldewgate

Does anyone have the 1901 census to find out their address and who else is in the household? I'm guessing that the following children are but I can't be sure:
Jane  Edgar 8 b. Scotland;census place:  Cumberland Carlisle Caldewgate
Alice  Edgar 6 b. Scotland; census place: Cumberland Carlisle Caldewgate
Albert  Edgar 2 b. Cumberland, Workington; census place:  Cumberland Carlisle Caldewgate   

Much thanks,
ard

[shellyesq]

Yes, those children are in the household.  The address looks like 11 Cumberland St. to me.

[ard]

Wow, that was quicker than quick. THank you.

Are they the only 5 people in the household?
I don't know if it is an easy search or not, but the 1901 census revealed several Edgar families in Caldewgate,   Carlisle ... so perhaps immediate family lived nearby?

If Cumberland is the county, is Carlisle a parish and Caldewgate a town??

ard

[Geoff E]

Carlisle is a city, Caldewgate is a township in the parish of Carlisle St. Mary (i.e. part of Carlisle).

[ard]

Oh. I get it. Sort of.    I think it might be a bit different where I live!
thanks

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I think the image shows Francis born Jersey, with ChannI written next to it, maybe later in different pen

If that's right then there in the 1881 Channel Islands there is a Frank EDGAR b.1866 St Helier, Jersey, son of Henry A and Amilia.  RG11/5610  f.106  p.17.


In 1871 they are here,

RG10/5755  f.122  p.22  St Helier, Jersey
No.14 Vine Street

Albert EDGAR      Head  42  Working Jeweller                England
Amelia               Wife   42                                            "  "
Amelia A            Daur   16  Apprentice to Millinery        Jersey St Helier
   "      C           Daur   14      "    "      "  Dressmaking        "  "    "  "
Alice A              Daur   11  Scholar                                  "  "    "  "
Florence J          Daur   10    "  "                                      "  "    "  "
Albert R              Son    8    "  "                                       "  "    "  "
Robert Percy       Son    7    "  "                                      "  "    "  "
Frank A              Son    5    "  "                                       "  "    "  "
Charles W           Son    3    "  "                                       "  "    "  "
Alfred G BARRETT  Cousin Wid  32  Chair Caner & Musician    England    Blind


He does call his first son Albert, but maybe that's just coincidence 

Regards
Daisy

[Geoff E]

Hi,

I think the image shows Francis born Jersey, with ChannI written next to it, maybe later in different pen

That's what I wrote on the B-G board a couple of hours ago   Great minds think alike!

http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18316

[ard]

Yes, I try to cover all bases 

Thanks you all... you've been very helpful! I think you've definately found Francis' family. I doubt it's a coincidence that his first son is named Albert. Jane at least is Scottish and her family seems to follow the scottish naming patterns quite religiously (which is always helpful to us researchers!)

cheers and much thanks,
ard

ps I wonder what a chair caner is??? Re: the blind musician cousin

[Daisypetal]

You may find this useful re: the blind musician,

http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/c.html


Daisy