George GWYNN and Mary Ann HOBBS

[davierj]

You're more than welcome, Hazel.   Say hello to NZ for me for old times sake 
A Happy and Prosprous New Year to you and yours, Dave

[HazelWiley]

Hello Dave
I have just found on a family tree on the internet an Anne Garlick born abt 1800 who married James Dowling of Ramsbury at Chilton Foliatt on the 13th of April 1822. Can you check this out for me please.
Peter Withers had a sister Ann who married James Dowling of Ramsbury and the children add up to those I have.
Is there a baptism for Ann Garlick in Chilton Foliatt in 1800 and possibly a Thomas Osmond or Garlick in 1800-1804 or just before or any other siblings.
I had not thought of Anne and Thomas  having their mothers previous married names before she married Thomas Withers in 1804 but it makes sense.
Well in fact until you found her earlier marriages was not aware that Ann Osmond had been married before.
Sorry to be such a nuisance but this might fill in the gaps and of course makes sense that they possibly were not Thomas's children from a previous marriage but Ann Osmonds prior to her marriage to Thomas.As you said Thomas was not listed as a widower on his marriage to Ann Osmond
Its cool again this morning with rain forcasted for later in the day.
Where is our Summer?.
Cheers Hazel

[davierj]

Sounds like a good wheeze Hazel     I'll probably have one more look at the records before leaving UK for a few months.   I've got to get away from the doom and gloom - to say nothing of the weather 

Happy New Year, Dave

[davierj]

Hi Hazel

Baptisms in Chilton Foliatt
16 Oct 1796 Thomas (?) Toon Clark/Garlick son of Ann Garlick
Difficult to read and he may have had an alias or Clark was the supposed father, don't know
28 Sep 1799 Mary Ann Garlick dau of Ann
28 Sep 1799 Ann, Rebecca and Sarah daus of John and Ann Garlick.   Privately baptised at Topsham Devonshire.

 Marriage in Chilton Foliatt
30 Apr 1822 James Dowling of Ramsbury and Anne Garlick, otp, banns.   Witnesses Jeremiah Goole ? and Sarah Garlick.

Cheers Dave

[HazelWiley]

Hello Dave
Many thanks. That solves the mystery of who Peter Withers brothers and sisters[Possibly] were. How amazing. Clark may have been Ann Garlick/Osmond/Withers maiden name or as you said another man in her life.
Thomas was said to have lived in Topsam,Devonshire. Peter wrote to him from Tasmania plus to Ann and her husband James Dowling who was related to Mary Ann Hobbs.No doubt you know that.I have been looking on the census for a Thomas Withers. No wonder I did not find him.
Bless you for all your help. This is something I would have not been able to do from here.
Its now on record December was our coldest Decembers for 60 years so we were not imagining it. Still in semi winter clothes in a Hawkes Bay summer,almost unheard of.
I know it is your winter so far colder than our winters in this area.I hope you enjoy your holiday.
by the way my email address is
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So again many many thanks.
Hazel.

[HazelWiley]

Hello Dave
I have just found the marriage of John Garlick to Anne Stone 16th June 1788 Topsam Devon.
Rebecca Garlick baptised 6th Decenber 1790 Topsam,Devon
Sarah Garlick baptised 24th March 1793 Topsam, Devon
Ann Garlick baptised 28th June 1789, Topsam, DEvon
Thomas Garlick married Harriet Branscombe 20th September 1919 Topsam, Devon.
Not sure where the Palk comes from but it explains the Stone in William Stone Palk Withers name.
Maybe Thomas is also Thomas Stone Palk Garlick.
This is so amazing
 :)Cheers Hazel

[davierj]

I've often found it only takes a small hint to point to where things happen to open up a whole new branch of the family.
Cheers Dave

[HazelWiley]

Hello Dave
after a bit of a break
George Gwynn born in 1801 was related to Mary Ann Hobbs through the Alexander family.her grandmother was Rebecca Alexander.George Gwynns mother was Sarah Alexander.So Mary Ann would have known him.
Not exactly first cousins but still related.
It was thought that Mary Ann Hobbs who married Peter Withers was the daughter of William Hobbs and Ann Jefferies but that Mary Ann married a Charles Elford and emigrated to Canada.
My Mary Ann Hobbs was the daughter of Thomas Hobbs and Martha Stagg.
Thomas and William were brothers.They named several of their children the same names.She was a bit older than Peter Withers.
Do you know whothe witnesses were to the marriage of Ann Osmond[Garlick,Stone]and Thomas Withers.
I have no idea who Thomas Withers parents were.
Hazel

[davierj]

Hi Hazel
Good to hear from you.   I must admit I'm out of touch with the intricacies of the family after all this time.   Can you let me know what you want me to look up and I'll see what I can do.   

If I've already looked up the Thomas Withers/Ann Osmond marriage I guess I'd have mentioned any witnesses.   As I said let me know what you want.

Hope you are keeping well, I've just returned to wiltshire so just settling back in.

Regards Dave