Sophia Dewar need help to find her in 1851

[jericho]

Hi Monica


Wow, you have been busy, George left Sophia in abt 1887  and took off to South Africa with a married woman he doesn't seem to figure in the family again he died in Durban in 1916. One of his sons later also emigrated to South Africa but I have no idea if they were in contact.   Have had contact in the past with a person connected to the Dewar family in Scotland and George seems ( even today) not to popular within the family. Thanks with all your marvelous help it is most appreciated.  As I haven't looked  at George's family until now.

jericho

[dkmcad]

Hi Jericho and Monica,

Well done Monica!

Sorry, I am no help in finding Sophia.  Just cannot find her under any variation in spelling.  She is very elusive, but no doubt will be around somewhere.

Going back to Helen Stewart's family, both father Peter and Mother Margaret seem to be buried in Longforgan.

1830 - January 11 - Peter Stewart, Weaver in Dargie, a married man, aged 73, was buried.

1850 - Margaret Stewart, wife of the late Peter Stewart, Weaver, Mylnefield aged 85 was buried - Anderson 

http://members.aol.com/ori3530158/ori35.htm/Page32.html

Regards,
Dorothy

[jericho]

Hi Dorothy


Thanks for the link and also the death information, I am coming to believe that at the moment I'm meant to find out more about George and his family than I am about Sophia so she will be found when she is meant to. Anyway thanks everyone for all your help.


jericho

[MonicaL]

Jericho

When you say John and Mary Ann had died by 1851, was this before or after the census?

I think I have found the family in 1851   John Snr not there so Mary probably would show as widow on the original image. Surname horribly mistranscribed ...surprise surprise! Dewar to Adrurer:

Mary Adrurer    56, b. Montrose, Forfarshire (b. 1792-96)
Janet Adrurer    30, b. Edinburgh (b. 1817-21)
John Adrurer    23, tailor, Old Mildmin (meldrum?), Aberdeen (b. 1827-31)
Jean Adrurer    20, reeler, b. Perth (b. 1831)
Sophia Adrurer    18, reeler, b. Dundee (b. 1832)
Alexr Adrurer    14, scholar, b. Dundee
Robert Adrurer    13, Revcas (occupation?), b. Dundee (b. 1836)
Thos Adrurer    no age or birth place showing on the index

Address: 28 Princes St, Dundee, Angus

The birth years I've put in brackets correspond to their entries in the 1841 census index, as you can see, a good fit. Something has gone slightly array on the transcription of the entries for Alexander and Thomas, you would have to look at the original image to determine what their individual entries should actually be.

Phew, that was bugging me! I know Joe has also put the time in trying to find them also. Team effort 

If it's not them, I think I'll 

Regards.

Monica
   

[liverpool annie]

By George !! ............ I think you've got it Monica !!

I hope Jericho thinks so too !! 

You and Joe have been relentless with this Sophia .... I tried too and couldn't find nothin " !!!!!

Annie 

[runningbear]

WELL DONE, WELL DONE, it must be them surely!!

a check of the 1861 census says that there is no adrurer's living in scotland, surely it is a 1851 transcription error.

i may be able to sleep tonight!!

will wait to see what jericho thinks

Joe

[MonicaL]

As always, a team effort 

Monica

[jericho]

Fantastic work everyone I believe that you all may have finally cracked the disapperence of Sophia and also found her family as well as her mother (my 3rd ggrandmother) so very well done. I was told by a Dewar contact that Mary wasn't on the 1851 census and that she had already died. Just goes to show that you shouldn't believe all that you hear.  I now have a place of birth not only for Mary but for most of the children as well. A big thank-you to all who contributed to this post as your time work and effort are most appreciated.


hope you all have a great christmas

jericho

[dkmcad]

Hi Jericho,

Here is a copy of the OPR
for George Prain and Sophia Dewar.

Dundee August 1854
George Prain, Weaver and Sophia
Dewar dau. Of John Dewar.
Married 28th August 1854

This is a copy of the 1851 Dundee
Census for the Dewar family.

Dundee – 282/59/18
100 – 28 Princes Street
Mary A. Dewar Head. Wid. 56 Born F.Montrose
Janet Dewar Dau. 30 Born Edinburgh
John Dewar Son. 23 Tailor Born Abrd. Old Meldrum
Jean Dewar Dau. 20 Reeler Born Perth
Sophia Dewar Dau. 18 Reeler born F. Dundee
Robert Dewar Son. 13/15? Reeler? Born F. Dundee
Thom? Dewar ??
Alexr. Dewar Son. 7 Scholar Born F. Dundee

Thomas has been “squashed”
into the line above Alexander.  Can’t read
anything about him.

Also there is a death in the Dundee Howff Burial Index
which might be John Dewar (father)

Name:  Dewar John
Burial Date:  10th September, 1849
Age at Death: 57
Occupation:  Old Soldier, Pensioner and Tailor
Cause of Death:  Effects of Intoxication
Last Address:  Vault

Happy Christmas.

Regards,
Dorothy