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Re: HMS Calcutta 1803-1804
« Reply #9 on: Friday 08 December 06 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Yep, William Buckley was one of the convicts from this settlement. One of the free settlers was an 11 year old boy called John Pascoe Fawkner - who grew up to be one of Melbourne's most foremost businessmen, and an MP.

When Buckley resurfaced thirty years later, Fawkner was a prominent businessman and politician, and actually refused a request to give Buckley a full pardon.

My gggggg grandfather, James Clissold, was a Marine on the Sorrento expedition. Every Clissold in Victoria (and there's so many entire school classes and cricket teams have been comprised of Clissolds) is descended from him.

Kez :)

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Re: HMS Calcutta 1803-1804
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 09 December 06 05:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kevin

No list but have you seen this document at

http://image.sl.nsw.gov.au/Ebind/cy1151/a1492/a1492057.html

Very interesting for background info

Bob
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
Tortoishell - Staffs
Cooper, Freeman, Parnell, Love, Hargreaves - Rutland
Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
Kenny - Germany
Edwards - Greater London/Victoria, Australia
Bartlett, Gee, Padbury - Northants
Rampoley, Allom - Suffolk
Detlefsen, Herse, Iversen, Boisen/Boysen - Denmark
Xylander - Germany
Dundon - Co Limerick
Mullins - Devon

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Re: HMS Calcutta 1803-1804
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 09 December 06 07:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Bob, that document is excellent.   ;D

It gives an insight into what is must have been like.  I was hoping for more mention of what the convicts did.  I need to read it again more slowly, there is lots to take in.

Cheers, Kevin
Clarence, England then Australia from 1912.
Copeland, England.
Lascelles / Lovett / Stevens, England.
Langford, England (Reading and Southampton).
Kipp / Rigbye / Randall, Germany then Victoria, Australia from 1849.
Boothman / Clifford / Marsden / Johnston in Australia

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Re: HMS Calcutta 1803-1804
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 14 December 06 02:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kevin
Have you seen this site?

http://www.easycms.com.au/?q=node/100

Bob
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
Tortoishell - Staffs
Cooper, Freeman, Parnell, Love, Hargreaves - Rutland
Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
Kenny - Germany
Edwards - Greater London/Victoria, Australia
Bartlett, Gee, Padbury - Northants
Rampoley, Allom - Suffolk
Detlefsen, Herse, Iversen, Boisen/Boysen - Denmark
Xylander - Germany
Dundon - Co Limerick
Mullins - Devon


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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 14 December 06 02:11 GMT (UK) »
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
Tortoishell - Staffs
Cooper, Freeman, Parnell, Love, Hargreaves - Rutland
Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
Kenny - Germany
Edwards - Greater London/Victoria, Australia
Bartlett, Gee, Padbury - Northants
Rampoley, Allom - Suffolk
Detlefsen, Herse, Iversen, Boisen/Boysen - Denmark
Xylander - Germany
Dundon - Co Limerick
Mullins - Devon

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Re: HMS Calcutta 1803-1804
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 14 December 06 03:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Bob, both excellent references.

Cheers, Kevin
Clarence, England then Australia from 1912.
Copeland, England.
Lascelles / Lovett / Stevens, England.
Langford, England (Reading and Southampton).
Kipp / Rigbye / Randall, Germany then Victoria, Australia from 1849.
Boothman / Clifford / Marsden / Johnston in Australia

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Re: HMS Calcutta 1803-1804
« Reply #15 on: Friday 15 December 06 05:20 GMT (UK) »
Here it is Kevin, I knew I had seen it somewhere.

http://www.blaxland.com/ozships/page.htm

Go to contents then to arrivals then search for Calcutta.


Bob
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
Tortoishell - Staffs
Cooper, Freeman, Parnell, Love, Hargreaves - Rutland
Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
Kenny - Germany
Edwards - Greater London/Victoria, Australia
Bartlett, Gee, Padbury - Northants
Rampoley, Allom - Suffolk
Detlefsen, Herse, Iversen, Boisen/Boysen - Denmark
Xylander - Germany
Dundon - Co Limerick
Mullins - Devon

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Re: HMS Calcutta 1803-1804
« Reply #16 on: Friday 15 December 06 06:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Bob, I have seen that entry before and dismissed it, because it is very confusing.  Now, I'm sure it's the same Ship, and list of Convicts on the Calcutta as John Boothman is there as well.

This Web Site states the Calcutta's destination was Sydney, yet everything I've read says Lieutenant Governor David Collins job was to establish a colony at Port Phillip.  The storeship Ocean sailed direct to Port Phillip, and arrived there 6th or 7th October, the Calcutta arrived two days later. 

So 26th December destination Sydney is .... Huh?????

When Collins abandoned Port Phillip in May 1804 he then set sail with his marines and prisoners for Van Dieman’s Land, presumably in the Calcutta.  No mention is made of that on this Web Site.

However, many thanks it now gives me a list of the convicts on board, which is what I was looking for.

Cheers, Kevin

 
Clarence, England then Australia from 1912.
Copeland, England.
Lascelles / Lovett / Stevens, England.
Langford, England (Reading and Southampton).
Kipp / Rigbye / Randall, Germany then Victoria, Australia from 1849.
Boothman / Clifford / Marsden / Johnston in Australia

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Re: HMS Calcutta 1803-1804
« Reply #17 on: Friday 15 December 06 09:27 GMT (UK) »


When Collins abandoned Port Phillip in May 1804 he then set sail with his marines and prisoners for Van Dieman’s Land, presumably in the Calcutta. 



Most of the settlers were tranferred to VDL on the 'Lady Nelson' and the 'Ocean' on January 30th 1804. The remainder left Port Phillip in May.

Hobart Town was found in February 1804. 

So your ancestor is one of the unique people who had a hand in establishing Victoria's first colony and Tasmania's first colony.

Regards

Genni

PS - The 'Calcutta' would have left Port Phillip and continued on to Sydney in 1803.
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