McCance family - County Down

[tigerbelle]

Hello,

I am trying to obtain any information on the following people.

My g,g,g grandfather was John McCance born c1825.
he married Agnes McLeod born c1824
their son, Robert Millan McCance was born c1847, Grey Abbey, County Down.

The family moved to Australia several years after Roberts birth, after 1842

I believe John was a gardener.

Any information, suggestions, etc would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

[BallyaltikilliganG]

There are manuscript family trees for McCANCE in volumes 3p112, 16p62, 24p60 in the Blackwood Family history manuscript trees in LinenHall library, Belfast.  I suggest you ask them for photocopying estimates if they think your knowledge relevant and be prepared to pay the extra for post and packing. However if the material is really relevant when you get it, I suggest a further donation to this unique library that is always needing extra funds. Linen Hall Library,17 Donegall Square North, Belfast BT15GB, Northern Ireland, Telephone: +44 (0)28 9032 1707,  Fax: +44 (0)28 9043 8586, Email: info [--at--] linenhall.com.




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[Christopher]

Hello tigerbelle,

I've linked your McCance thread on the Ireland General board to this one.

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=187538.msg2009503#msg2009503

Christopher

[iandann]

Tigerbelle,

My gg grandparents were John McCance & Agnes McMillan (nee McLeod). He (1819-21/10/1907) was a son of John McCance & Martha Gilmour (married Killinchy 27/3/1813) and is buried with Agnes in his stepsons' grave (for James & Nathaniel McMillan) at Chewton. Agnes (1809-12/10/1896) was a daughter of Daniel McLeod & Agnes McKimm. She first married Nathaniel McMillan (1807-3/10/1843) in 1827 and they had six sons (Hamilton, John, James, Nathaniel, Thomas, Alexander). After Nathaniel was killed (apparently by anti-orange men) she married John McCance and they had three sons (Robert Millan, William Henry Millan, Francis Edward) and two daughters (Martha, Agnes Ann). The whole family migrated to Victoria in late 1852. The two older McMillans and families sailed from Liverpool on the "Marion Moore" and the McCances and youngest McMillans on the "Confiance". If you are interested in more bits on the McCance/McMillans email me at "iandann(-at-)aapt.net.au".  There are quite a number in my file and my grandfather (John Robert Duggan, son of Agnes Ann McCance) had over 80 first cousins, and I'm still counting since I haven't found where Alexander McMillan and family finally settled, probably WA. Incidently, John McMillan (1832-1913) settled  near Deniliquin on "Pine Farm" with wife (Mary Regan) and are buried at Deniliquin, and Thomas McMillan was a drover for "Pine Farm'.  

[BallyaltikilliganG]

In case you are interested in artistic photos of possible tombstonesof unknown date until you look them up,  try
C-McCance-Greyabbey-Tombstone photo by Bill Cardwell at-Greyabbey graveyard see-www.bangor.homecall.co.uk/Greyabbey
J-McCance-Greyabbey-Tombstone photo by Bill Cardwell at-Greyabbey graveyard see-www.bangor.homecall.co.uk/Greyabbey
W-McCance-Greyabbey-Tombstone photo by Bill Cardwell at-Greyabbey graveyard see-www.bangor.homecall.co.uk/Greyabbey
D-McLeod-Greyabbey-Tombstone photo by Bill Cardwell at-Greyabbey graveyard see-www.bangor.homecall.co.uk/Greyabbey
J-McMillan-Greyabbey-Tombstone photo by Bill Cardwell at-Greyabbey graveyard see-www.bangor.homecall.co.uk/Greyabbey
Good luck, Jim

[iandann]

Thank you Jim. What a treasure! The first one I looked at was Daniel McLeod's, then Nathaniel McMillan's. Pity the photo for John McCance's didn't include the whole headstone though.

Ian

[BallyaltikilliganG]

The church records for burials and so tombstones appear to only exist for the Church of Ireland Greyabbey cemetery,  Ros Davies on her great website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/PHOTOSwords/GreyabbeyAll        describes them thus "Records from 1807; graveyard nearby; gravestones UHF Vol 12; email me Ros Davies for a gravestone look-up; North of Ireland Family History Society holds baptism 1807- 1815 & 1820- 1863; marriages 1807-1844; burials 1808- 1873 & confirmations 1823,1827,1831, 1836, 1841, 1844" So you will get the full wording
Jim

[iandann]

Jim, I have found the full wording elsewhere  on the net for the headstone for John Boal (1720-86), John McCance (1752-1830) and perhaps his wife Mary (1780-1850) but relationship not clear from wording. Also Mary's son, William McCance (1797-1874), & his wife, Eassy (nee Orr, 1789-1870), & their son Matthew (1827-1852). Haven't fitted them in yet, but a book from the library may help written by David Fitzpatrick, "Oceans of consolation. Personal accounts of Irish migration to Australia ...." which apparently has some letters written by/for my GGGF (John McCance) back to the relies left in Ireland.

Ian

[BallyaltikilliganG]

Christopher found it , like arabbit from ahat, thank you. Now Ian, back in 2006 on this message board I was replying to Tigerbelle another of your kin  and replied "There are manuscript family trees for McCANCE in volumes 3p112, vol 16p62, vol 24p60 in the Blackwood Family history manuscript trees in LinenHall library, Belfast.  I suggest you ask them for photocopying estimates if they think your knowledge relevant and be prepared to pay the extra for post and packing. However if the material is really relevant when you get it, I suggest a further donation to this unique library that is always needing extra funds. Linen Hall Library,17 Donegall Square North, Belfast BT15GB, Northern Ireland, Telephone: +44 (0)28 9032 1707,  Fax: +44 (0)28 9043 8586, Email:info[at]linenhall.com."
since then I have completed a work on Comber parish that includes the surnames, you can see all on www.comberonline.com find the history section and download the Peoples and places for free. Just to warn you its from the internet and nothing original.  The Orr  family in Co Down has special resources, the Boals should have done their own and the McMillans did around Comber but I didnt copy their tree when it was on Welcome to Comber before Comberonline started.  If I think of anything else I will come back to you.
The McQuoid s of Greyabbey have also been researched
Jim